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Post by Gregocide on Jan 31, 2005 22:40:49 GMT -6
Hey all, how are you? My name is Greg and this is my first post. For my first post I decided, I'd introduce myself, and link you to my page that has some info on my and clips of myself: members.aol.com/dreadmyshred/I hope you guys can check it out and give me feedback, and maybe sign my guestbook. It only takes two seconds to sign the book and I'd love to see some new names on there. Anyway, --- if you want, please check it out. The clips are a few months old, my sweeping has improved a LOT since. They're just me over some jamtracks. I got a vamp over the holidays, and I'm finally writing an original which has definate sound-quality/tonality improvements over the existing clips. Please let me know what you think. Anyone else got Clips? Anyone else from the Philadelphia area?
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Post by Philip on Feb 1, 2005 10:26:20 GMT -6
Your evil laugh almost killed me
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Post by Son Of Vengence on Feb 1, 2005 10:49:31 GMT -6
Ahh man, this guy beat me to the punch. Here in the next 3 or 4 days I was going to (And probably still will) Post a shamless self-promotion plug lol. So people can go the my site and maybe join me messegeboard. I don't feel bad doing it since I'm a loyal member of the MAB forum ..
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Post by Administrator on Feb 1, 2005 10:55:28 GMT -6
That was quite good! Shameless self promotion and plugs from MAB fans and street team members are always welcome here! Go ahead an post your clips!
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Post by Gregocide on Feb 1, 2005 11:45:26 GMT -6
Ahh man, this guy beat me to the punch. Here in the next 3 or 4 days I was going to (And probably still will) Post a shamless self-promotion plug lol. So people can go the my site and maybe join me messegeboard. I don't feel bad doing it since I'm a loyal member of the MAB forum .. heh, sorry... i just figured i'd familiarize myself with everyone, given I've just registered to the community. Didn't intend to do it just for the sake of 'shameless promotion' or solicitation. Please realize, this wasn't a "One time post," where i never intend on coming back in here. ----- Also, thanks a ton Deb!
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Post by Administrator on Feb 1, 2005 12:46:01 GMT -6
No problem. I want to hear everything you guys create! I am very interested in the various styles and techniques that guitarists from around the world play. If you have a link to your material, please let us hear it!
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Post by Gregocide on Feb 1, 2005 20:46:57 GMT -6
I mean no disrespect but you did place yourself on the soapbox. Truthfully, you sound like the 1 million other poser guitarists in the World! Listen, a true musician stand's out in the crowd, he/she has a captivating bright sound weather it be major or minor; the notes ring out! Continual repeating of a measure is both boring and offensive. Take all the tapes you have of "learn to burn" and toss them in the trash can! Sit down and comfortably play music from your heart, what you desire to hear; not what people are use to listening to! Remember, the emotion of music is going to take a little time to unfold, give it "time". When you feel you have something original repost it. In the event you cannot be creative and original than music is not for you; period! The old idea of people saying "he is half decent" or "he tries real hard" is nothing more than frustration that causes both grief and misery. You can also be a listener of music, there is absolutely nothing wrong with listening to music and enjoying the sound. Wow, you have some issues. I don't need your approval to play or listen to music, mr. "It's OK to be a listener," thank you. :-), I'll be posting an original song in a week, once its recorded. If you don't feel my leads are original, to the point where you don't want to listen, please don't. Honestly, they're up on the net and this forum for positive and negative feedback, not just one side of the fence. If it's not a style for you, or you even just don't like it --- that's cool and i respect it. I just do not understand why you've gone and gotten your panties in a bunch over this. You have some serious issues.
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Post by Administrator on Feb 1, 2005 21:07:21 GMT -6
Well said, Gericide! You know the majority of the members on this site are supportive musicians who want to hear your clips. Positive and negative feedback are needed for a musician to grow. But saying things to be cruel or arrogant won't be tolerated here. Veritas, you sound like an intelligent person we could learn from. But...you need to chill or you're going to find your posts removed from our community.
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Post by Son Of Vengence on Feb 1, 2005 22:32:47 GMT -6
I kind of feel what the one guy said but I wouldnt word it with quite as much hositlity. I'll have to check the clips out but I do agree that alot of guitar players sound the same. All just trying to play the fastest sweeps and longest legato licks, and that does get boring. BUT no matter what you play, it has influence from somewhere which means in essence, you're playing with emotion.
I know how to do little sweeps and stuff but I hardly ever use them, BC I have to feel it in the song. A song I'm working on getting recorded now (If my equipment would stop messing up) is 70% Pentatonic shred IN THE BOX!!!..If someone doesnt like it I'm sorry, it fits the song..I'm not going to have some 2 minute tapping bit just to impress a shred freak, the music sounds good to me.
And that's the bottom line, make music for yourself, not to please others..
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Post by Gregocide on Feb 2, 2005 14:35:11 GMT -6
I kind of feel what the one guy said but I wouldnt word it with quite as much hositlity. I'll have to check the clips out but I do agree that alot of guitar players sound the same. All just trying to play the fastest sweeps and longest legato licks, and that does get boring. BUT no matter what you play, it has influence from somewhere which means in essence, you're playing with emotion. I know how to do little sweeps and stuff but I hardly ever use them, BC I have to feel it in the song. A song I'm working on getting recorded now (If my equipment would stop messing up) is 70% Pentatonic shred IN THE BOX!!!..If someone doesnt like it I'm sorry, it fits the song..I'm not going to have some 2 minute tapping bit just to impress a shred freak, the music sounds good to me. And that's the bottom line, make music for yourself, not to please others.. Dolly, I agree as well --- I feel it is very important to carry a level of originality. Unfortunately, when working with 'prescripted,' backing tracks, it is sometimes hard to do. With the MP3s on my site, I really tried to add original twists to what was given, and I believe i did. In my personal composition, I enjoy trying to create the whole typical parobola-type structure. Meaning, I like the traditional feeling of having songs climax midway. Even in those backing-tracked clips ---- in 'point of impact' I added the countdown thing midway... and althoguh sloppier 'welcome to my mind' has the weird voices midway. I did this, and a mixture of exotic scales to try to reduce the binding of the tracks themselves. Also, in some of my own compositions I tend to integrate more of an untriadic approach, to spice things up a little giving more of a variety of options. All in all, the current clips aren't a a prime example of my compositional or creative capabilities. Although, I will say I think 'welcome to my mind,' takes a bit of an unconventional direction. I don't know. You can't please all the people all the time. Hell, if you look at the guestbooks of greats like rusty and fra, it becomes obvious. I do, however, like feedback on the net because of the honesty in opinions. Arrogance and hostility, however, I don't see a need for. Especially when we're talking about clips over jamtracks, which i believe are the relative equilivent of a photograph from the neck up.
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Post by Administrator on Feb 2, 2005 16:36:23 GMT -6
It's universal knowledge that musicians wear their "hearts on their sleeves". That is one reason we want the members of this forum to be treated with a certain amount of respect. Gregocide said: "Especially when we're talking about clips over jamtracks, which i believe are the relative equilivent of a photograph from the neck up." I never thought of it that way, but the concept is right on. If someone showed you a picture of themselves would you say, "ewwwww you look awful"? Be honest, fair and sensitive in your critiques.
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Post by Son Of Vengence on Feb 3, 2005 11:27:11 GMT -6
Gregocide, Just listen to one of your clips! Pretty good! I liked it! I'd say that the main thing I personally hear is that when you start to shred you lose track of timing and what key your in. I personally would slow down and workout Your patterns and tempo, then pick it back up after you make sure your on track. It just takes practice: don't fret , all good things in good time, dude! Keep at it! But in all fairness I think you are on your way. Good job! ;D ;D Actually I felt the opposite. I felt that his slow bits were off rhythm and key but the shred parts were fantastic. I'd say take more time to analyze how the song is put together, especially when working with backing tracks. BC he has a great ear for when to shred and when to play melody..Kind of like another guitar player I listen to ..
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Post by Gregocide on Feb 3, 2005 13:02:04 GMT -6
Hey, thanks so much guys.
Yeah, I have a lot of growth to undergo still and have undergone a lot of growth since those clips were recorded.
I appreciate your having taken the time to check them out.
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Post by blackorchidx on Feb 3, 2005 16:37:02 GMT -6
Impressive stuff, lovely tone, lacks something but i dont know what, no offence, it was lovely stuff though, keep it up
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Post by Gregocide on Feb 3, 2005 21:08:43 GMT -6
Impressive stuff, lovely tone, lacks something but i dont know what, no offence, it was lovely stuff though, keep it up hahahaha, the tone is haggard! I got a v-amp for christmas, so all of my new stuff is being done on that. Thanks so much for the time and feedback, I mean it.
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Post by Gregocide on Feb 4, 2005 10:39:34 GMT -6
I just wanted to expand on what I was saying earlier For a miniute. Dolly Dearest feels the the shred was perfect and the rythem was the source. I felt that the shred was off and led to some rythem sections being off. Now, who is right? Who is wrong? The answer is simply this, neither! And that is okay!Both are valid! It shows different tastes. Only Gregocide knows how he wrote his songs. And only he can answer what sounds good to him. All we can do is give our own inturpretions of what we hear. This is how we learn and grow as musicians. Gregocide only he knows what he was trying to convey. It is up to him to go back, listen, and see what he hears. And work it out to be a personal masterpiece. He says that he has gotten better sence he did these songs. I believe him. With everything we do we grow and expand our knowledge! I really think we are on the right track with our feedback. It is important to possitively help and expand each others knowledge. ;D ;D Thanks bro. I couldn't agee more. They're up on the net for feedback. I think it's very important to get all kinds of feedback from all kinds of ears. I've heard everything from "You need to improve period" to "This is practically perfection," (neither of which i agree with!), and everything inbetween. I'm working really hard to improve on myself. I will never look musical progression as a dead-end, like some (even professionals) do. The internet is a very very very powerful tool, some use it for good by listening and try to take things into consideration. Others use it for bad by trying to just take the good and boust their own egos, or lash out at others to make up for their own securities in their criques. Althoguh sometimes more difficult, I try to take everything into consideration, reflect and improve. Like I said before though, I didn't write the current songs.
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Post by Son Of Vengence on Feb 4, 2005 11:04:01 GMT -6
Gregocide - I was just wondering, what kind of recording setup do you have/use??
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Post by Gregocide on Feb 4, 2005 14:15:41 GMT -6
Gregocide, Thank you for understanding what I was saying, But I think there is miss a comunication. When I was speaking of writing the song I was only talking about the licks on your guitar. The music you where playing over was of no concideration in my feedback. I am very glad you are so open to suggestions. That shows good maturity in wanting to perfect your art. ;D And we should all be able to do that. But I agree not all can or will. If somehow I miss interpetted the guitar licks as yours, and they are not, then I am Sorry! Although I am pretty sure that they are None the less, I still think it was cool! :-), yeah-- it's pretty obvious which ones are mine. I can't wait until tomorrow, I hope I finally finish that song I've been working on.
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Post by Gregocide on Feb 4, 2005 14:29:02 GMT -6
Gregocide - I was just wondering, what kind of recording setup do you have/use?? On those clips I recorded using a digi-tech RP100, and a mono cable directly to my computer. I wasn't too pleased with the results, tonally speaking and wouldn't recomend it. I recently got the BEHringer V-amp2, which was a little less money than a digi-tech unit, and have been using a stereo to stereo cable for recording. While still not perfect, I've found the v-amp to have a lot better results, as well as more options, and features in comparison to the digi-tech couterpart. Also, used my LTD viper for the recording which is now having grounding problems (it's possibile it was at the time of the recordings)... Meanwhile, I've been using my strat (which I don't like nearly as much) All in all, I wish I had better equipment for recording, but this isn't my full-time and I'm a student who is broke. So, I've settled for squeezing lemons, for the time being.
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Post by Administrator on Feb 6, 2005 21:09:16 GMT -6
Wow! Guys, This is so much better on the feedback!!! Nobody knocking anybody down!!!! Trying to help Gregocide with possitive words and suggestions!! We all may hear something a little different, and that is great! It is a reflection of the different personalities and musical tastes. But everyone has pointed out possitive things, too!! ;D ;D ;D Hopefully, this trend will continue!! And we all can help each other in reaching our goals!!! GREAT JOB!!!! By posting your clips here, you're getting feedback from many cultures and age groups in the world! People are hearing your music that may have never done so without the internet. I think in the future, the ideas and influences you gain from this international prospective is going to mold a new type of genre of rock music that's going to be understood globally! When you're bands are ready to hit the road, just think of how many contacts you've already gained for shared shows in other countries!
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Post by Gregocide on Feb 7, 2005 21:26:30 GMT -6
By posting your clips here, you're getting feedback from many cultures and age groups in the world! People are hearing your music that may have never done so without the internet. I think in the future, the ideas and influences you gain from this international prospective is going to mold a new type of genre of rock music that's going to be understood globally! When you're bands are ready to hit the road, just think of how many contacts you've already gained for shared shows in other countries! This is an extremely good point. I really liek the concept of a merging of cultures via the internet. A lot of people, including myself, often forget shred is an international thing. Yet another reason why the internet is great!
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Post by Guitargod on Feb 8, 2005 10:41:01 GMT -6
Dude.
Just keep jamming.
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Post by Rachel2xagain on Feb 8, 2005 16:33:05 GMT -6
Good stuff there and your laugh amused me, as for internet chat on music, its just another tool of publicity for yoursleves without some fatcat making money from it, musicians have lots of tools now that save them money in the long run and stops them getting screwed over by the record label, the future looks good for music.
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Post by Administrator on Feb 8, 2005 17:13:41 GMT -6
Technology has given you an edge that bands in the 70's and 80's didn't have. Home computers powerful enough to launch a space ship! Armed with a solid plan, good music software and a decent home recording studio, any dedicated band can create a CD. Using your handy little burner, copies can be made. The internet covers every aspect of marketing, promotion, copyrights, legal obligations, indie labels, and anything else you need to educate yourself in the biz. CD Baby and other online sites will suppy a barcode for cheap and sell songs online for you. Then just get out there and start playing your local clubs. You'll be on your way!
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Post by Son Of Vengence on Feb 8, 2005 17:23:42 GMT -6
Technology has given you an edge that bands in the 70's and 80's didn't have. Home computers powerful enough to launch a space ship! Armed with a solid plan, good music software and a decent home recording studio, any dedicated band can create a CD. Using your handy little burner, copies can be made. The internet covers every aspect of marketing, promotion, copyrights, legal obligations, indie labels, and anything else you need to educate yourself in the biz. CD Baby and other online sites will suppy a barcode for cheap and sell songs online for you. Then just get out there and start playing your local clubs. You'll be on your way! Then you have people like me and my band lol my band has all the talent and uniqueness in the world..My instrumental guitar stuff is coming along nicely and I have a site..Yet I can't even afford to get a decent recording studio at home lol..I had money saved up but then my guitar screwed up and NOW I have to save for a new amp *Sigh*..I need to find a friend with a recording studio lol..
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