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Post by aburge15 on Nov 10, 2011 1:53:27 GMT -6
Hey all, Im planning on getting a tube amp for practice, jamming and ocasional gigging. Im happy with anything from 40-100W. i limiting my budget to $800. i was originally going to get the Peavey ValveKing 112. what yo you guys reckon?
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Post by Blue on Nov 10, 2011 3:04:49 GMT -6
What sound are you going for, are you using effects, rack or pedals? Tell us more.
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Post by aburge15 on Nov 10, 2011 3:12:18 GMT -6
I Use a boss ME-70 pedal i like to go for a nice overdriven sound with a lot of clarity i basically use ME-70 for most effects but the amp i use now isnt incredible
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Post by aburge15 on Nov 10, 2011 12:45:22 GMT -6
please reply.
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Post by Blue on Nov 12, 2011 15:11:12 GMT -6
The Valveking isn't the clearest amp I've tried. You can get a nice smooth lead sound out of it but it's not the clearest thing out there.
Have you checked out the Egnater Renegade? It's best if you go to a music store and try out the amps and decide.
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Post by Maxxxwell on Nov 12, 2011 16:52:12 GMT -6
Check out some of the Carvin tube amps or the newer Bugeras. You can definitely get something quality for under 800. The Valveking is a hybrid amp, not all tube I believe.
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Post by BKW on Nov 12, 2011 19:57:35 GMT -6
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Post by aburge15 on Nov 12, 2011 21:16:28 GMT -6
thanks everyone, i decided to scrap the valveking anyway. atm im looking at: the Ibanez Tubescreamer either head or combo, the Jet City head or combo. Or maybe a carvin. btw what is the main difference between a stack and combo?
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Post by BKW on Nov 12, 2011 22:33:22 GMT -6
Combo = amp with built in speaker(s) in one cabinet Stack = amp in one cabinet and speakers in one or more separate cabinets (usually 'STACKED' on top of each other)
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Post by TheLivingDead on Nov 13, 2011 0:13:03 GMT -6
Check out the Carvin V3M. S-S-So sexy and versatile.
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Post by Blue on Nov 14, 2011 4:16:07 GMT -6
Valveking is not a hybrid amp it's all tube. Keep in mind that he lives in Australia, it might not be easy for him to get hold of Carvin for a decent price. thanks everyone, i decided to scrap the valveking anyway. atm im looking at: the Ibanez Tubescreamer either head or combo, the Jet City head or combo. Or maybe a carvin. btw what is the main difference between a stack and combo? The Ibanez TS would be great for a smooth light overdriven sound and apparently it takes pedals really well also, I've only heard good things about it. However if you wish to use your BOSS effects it might be better to go with another amp since the Ibanez TS amps FX-loop is not really a true FX-loop, it's placed between the TS circuity and the preamp of the amp, the effects might not sound as good as they would do in a true FX-loop which should be between the preamp and power-amp of an amplifier.
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Post by aburge15 on Nov 14, 2011 4:31:54 GMT -6
would it sound bad if i ran the boss through the imput. btw does an effects loop make an big difference rather than through the imput.
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Post by Blue on Nov 15, 2011 11:22:56 GMT -6
would it sound bad if i ran the boss through the imput. btw does an effects loop make an big difference rather than through the imput. You can do that but effects like delay, reverb, chorus often sound better in the loop. It's a matter of preference also, some people like them before the amp. The distortion modulation on the BOSS if there is any should be in front of the amp not in the loop. Compression also since it very rarely sounds good in the loop. Overdrive/distortion, compression, flanger, phaser, wha wha, generally sounds better in front of the amp and chorus, reverb, delay and other modulation generally sounds better in the loop but many people prefer delay in front of the amp also. You have to try it yourself to find out what you like. I only give you hints now but there's absolutely now "laws" to follow. But it's definitely best to have an amp with an fx-loop. Ibanez are stupid when they say the TS-amp has one because it doesn't. The best effects have the ability to be connected both in front of the amp and in the loop, I don't know if your BOSS have that, I don't think it has unfortunately. I think if I'm not mistaken that the BOSS GT-8 and GT-10 have that function. The good thing then is that you can have the distortion, compression and other effects you want in front of the amp and other effects, like delay and reverb in the fx-loop. I don't think the ME70 can do that but I'm not sure, you should check it out.
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Post by aburge15 on Dec 14, 2011 23:34:11 GMT -6
So i am going for the Ibanez TSA15. How big of a problem would the tone be to use a Boss Giga Delay and reverb in the loop ? is it still worth it?
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Post by Blue on Dec 18, 2011 16:57:17 GMT -6
So i am going for the Ibanez TSA15. How big of a problem would the tone be to use a Boss Giga Delay and reverb in the loop ? is it still worth it? I think it will be fine. If you don't like it you can always sell the amp or try another delay pedal first, there's a difference between pedals also. Sure you don't want to check out the Egnater amps first? They have many nice amps which are cheap, I think they would suit you very good, and they have a lot of features, like FX-loops to name a few Checked out Fender? They also have a bunch of amps in that price range that will do the job very good. As long as you don't want to have a really nice metal sound there's many amps that will do the trick very good with plenty of features.
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Post by aburge15 on Dec 19, 2011 5:30:51 GMT -6
Yeah i like the TSA casue the 12AX7's overdrive very nice and im gonna put a few distortion pedals in front if i want extra agression.
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Post by shreddingjoris on Dec 21, 2011 16:38:52 GMT -6
Egnater are pretty cool amps, check this video!
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Post by Blue on Dec 22, 2011 12:05:21 GMT -6
Egnater are pretty cool amps, check this video! I know him from a Swedish guitar forum, dude has some shredding capabilities for sure But thats an USA Made Egnater he's playing, it's MOD 50. The one's concerning this thread are all made in China, he couldn't afford a USA made Egnater with his budget. But I think the Egnater-sound is the type that would suit him well, they make very good amps for little money, and they have a good variety of amps also.
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Post by aburge15 on Dec 22, 2011 14:12:27 GMT -6
Yeah the TSA15 is gonna be more of a practice amp until i can afford something like the Vintage Modern, but im gonna look into an Egnater for a next amp. I will only get the vintage modern if im performing more often.
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Post by aburge15 on Dec 24, 2011 5:43:57 GMT -6
So i got the Ibanez TSA15 and i's incredible. It nailed all the tones im looking for, i haven't tried putting delay and reverb in the loop but i have a feeling it will sound alright.
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