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Post by razorshred on Sept 1, 2014 13:01:49 GMT -6
hey guys , so i am planning to buy the MAB 7 strings armor very soon because it is such a beautiful guitar and i personally love 7 strings guitar , so my question would be : what pickups should i choose for it ? the standard EMG 707 or can i replace them with MAB's HWS custom pickups ? because i love the creamy sound of the HWS pickups as well. Thank you very much
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Post by BKW on Sept 2, 2014 22:17:56 GMT -6
hey guys , so i am planning to buy the MAB 7 strings armor very soon because it is such a beautiful guitar and i personally love 7 strings guitar , so my question would be : what pickups should i choose for it ? the standard EMG 707 or can i replace them with MAB's HWS custom pickups ? because i love the creamy sound of the HWS pickups as well. Thank you very much The HWS (to my knowledge) is not offered in a 7 string version. In fact, I don't know of any DMT (Dean) pickups that are 7 string. I will try to contact Pat Baker (who is in charge of DMT at Dean) to verify. I can tell you that Michael really likes the 707's in the guitar. |
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Post by BKW on Sept 8, 2014 12:16:33 GMT -6
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Post by razorshred on Sept 29, 2014 1:48:17 GMT -6
Hello BKW , i am very sorry i haven't replied back but i saw your attachment and those pickups you showed me right there are amazing. My friend is going to the states on the 5th of October and will get me the MAB7 as well as the HWS pickups which i will use them on my other guitar . But the thing is i kinda like the HWS pickups sound and you told me that the MAB7 have passive EMG 707 , i wish i can replace its neck pickup with the HWS because i really do like how it sounds . Do you think there's a way around that or do you prefer i just stick to the default pickups ? your opinion is pretty much appreciated BKW ! thank you for your time !!
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Post by Blue on Oct 1, 2014 3:11:15 GMT -6
Well let's get something clear. The EMG 707 are active pickups.
Those passive Dean pickups are smaller in size than the EMG 707. Which means, they will fit in the guitar but they will leave a lot of empty space on the bottom and top side of the cavities, it will look ugly.
What you need to to is, either buy pickup rings to cover up the empty space or buy a passive pickup with EMG-style housing, some manufacturers has started to make this now since so many 7-string guitars came with EMG 707 stock, making it easier to swap to passives without adding pickup rings. Seymour Duncan and Lundgren are two manufacturers who offer this that I know of.
In my opinion the best thing you can do if you want to change to passives is to go to Seymour Duncan custom shop, they can make a custom pickups to your specs in the EMG 707 size. Just let them know how you want the pickup to sound like.
If you're extremely meticulous and have the bank acount for it you could even buy the Dean HWS pickup and send it to them and they will make a 7-string pickup that is pretty much as close to it as it can be.
With all that said, I don't know if Dean offers a custom shop for pickups without ordering a custom guitar? If they do, thats probably even a better and easier way to go.
From my limited experience with Dean pickups, I've tried the Vinnie Moore signature, they are very much like Duncans, very similar, you could clearly see where they got their inspiration from.
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Post by razorshred on Oct 1, 2014 5:31:54 GMT -6
Thank you Blue for your response . That definitely made it much clearer . the only problem is i already ordered the MAB7 and the HWS pickups 3 days ago and i don't know if it's currently in the shipping . However you kind of convinced me about the HWS pickups and trying to convert them for the MAB 7 , so i am going to research this subject and see what i can stumble upon . Again , lot of thanks for you and BKW for trying to help me . Appreciated man  |
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Post by Blue on Oct 1, 2014 13:49:04 GMT -6
No problem. If you have the money for it, go with the Duncan custom shop. I doubt you will be disappointed.
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Post by razorshred on Oct 2, 2014 6:05:11 GMT -6
okay ! but do u have by any chance the link where i can find those custom pickups and their price as well ? Thank you |
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Post by Blue on Oct 2, 2014 14:41:00 GMT -6
okay ! but do u have by any chance the link where i can find those custom pickups and their price as well ? Thank you You can find the order form here: customshop.seymourduncan.com/products.php?product=Build-Your-Own-HumbuckerAnd if you're unsure of what to choose, you can contact them and talk to them. I think that is the best thing to do if you're serious about getting a good pickup that you really like. To be able to fill in that form and get something out of it you need to have quite a lot of experience and knowledge about pickups. If you don't have that (which most people don't) I think it's better to just talk to them and take it from there. |
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Post by razorshred on Oct 2, 2014 16:05:12 GMT -6
thank you so much Blue !! i think i am going to just talk to them because i am not that experienced with pickups but definitely will give them a try !
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Post by Blue on Oct 3, 2014 1:59:25 GMT -6
thank you so much Blue !! i think i am going to just talk to them because i am not that experienced with pickups but definitely will give them a try ! No problem. Make sure you send them this link: www.deanguitars.com/pups?upc=819998035624And let them know that it's the MAB 7-string signature guitar you should have the pickups in. For the bridge model, I actually have no idea what type of pickup would go well with a HWS-type neck pickup but I'm sure Duncan has a good idea about that. Maybe a pickup in the spirit of the Dimarzio Superdistortion but for 7-string  |
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Post by razorshred on Oct 3, 2014 2:26:54 GMT -6
yes Blue ! i think those two puppies would make a great monster combo , i just don't want to regret my choices . ( I wonder what Michael's opinion would be .. ) , Anyway i am about to contact them now and ask them.
Cheers Blue
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Post by Blue on Oct 3, 2014 10:38:05 GMT -6
Yes it would be nice to see what the man himself would prefer. Hopefully he can get Dean to make passive signature pickups for his 7-string guitars in the future. Personally I really hate EMG's (and active pickups in general). Since MAB use passives for some of his 6-stringers I don't see any reason why he wouldn't want to try that for 7-stringers also If my memory is correct I think MAB has used the Superdistortions in the past, so I was taking that in to consideration when mentioning that. EDIT: I completely forgot that Dimarzio actually offer the SuperD for 7-strings now. However they still don't offer Active housing for their pickups like Duncan do. |
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Post by razorshred on Oct 3, 2014 11:25:24 GMT -6
Yes you are totally right , MAB did use the superdistortions in the past , and i was asking myself all the time : " why wouldn't the MAB7 have custom passive pickups like Michael prefers them " !? i watched his Clinic at goDps music store where he played the MAB7 and i fell in love with this guitar immediately and it just sounded amazing with MAB's rig although they are active pickups.
I just wish i can get a quick advice from Michael regarding a specific custom neck pickup for the MAB7 before it gets too late for me :/ , but nevertheless i am about to own one of the coolest 7-string guitar on the planet !!
and just to clarify i am not trying to copy michael's style or anything , i am just fascinated by the tone and cleanness he produces .. Amazing man !
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Post by Blue on Oct 3, 2014 14:50:23 GMT -6
He's been using EMG's for a long time. Many great players do, Jeff Loomis is another one. Personally I can't stand them really.
Anyway, his HWS neck pickup has a ceramic magnet and is fairly high output, at least for being a neck pickup. It gives you that aggressive and clear sound, upper mids which he's known for.
I know he has mentioned before on this forum, years back what pickup his HWS signature is modeled after. If I remember correctly it was a blade style humbucker, I don't remember the brand, I might be incorrect so don't take my word for it. Maybe someone can shime in here with some information!
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Post by Michael Angelo Batio on Oct 3, 2014 20:07:44 GMT -6
Hello. The MAB 7 "Warrior" comes with an active EMG 707 pick up system. These are my favorite EMG pick ups. They sound amazing in this guitar and IMHO, you don't need to change them for something else. I have been told that the 707 is really an 85 or 81 that has been lengthened to accommodate the 7 strings, but to me it sounds very different. This is one the "warmest" EMG pick up configuration I have ever used. I really love the sound of the "Warrior" with these pick ups. :-)
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Post by Blue on Oct 4, 2014 6:14:56 GMT -6
Yes they sound different because they are different pickups, 707's are not meant to be a 7-string version of the 85 and 81. I've heard that rumor also, I really don't know where it comes from. Probably the internetzzz  EMG offer real 7-string versions of the 81 and 85 nowdays. The 707 was never meant to replicate them. The rumor might have started because at the time the 707 was released there were no 81-7 and 85-7, it took quite a long time until they were released. |
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Post by razorshred on Oct 6, 2014 2:03:40 GMT -6
8-)I am so glad now that i got MAB's opinion in this , now i can really sleep at night !! thank you endlessly Michael for your reply and thank you Blue for your kind help as well . Can't Wait for that MAB7 !!!
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Post by Blue on Oct 6, 2014 13:29:53 GMT -6
8-)I am so glad now that i got MAB's opinion in this , now i can really sleep at night !! thank you endlessly Michael for your reply and thank you Blue for your kind help as well . Can't Wait for that MAB7 !!! I hope you'll be happy with it. Be sure to upload some nice pictures of it when it arrives! I would love to have one myself, unfortunately my bank-acount doesn't agree with me on that  |
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Post by razorshred on Oct 6, 2014 17:42:39 GMT -6
hahahah , well Blue i have to be honest with you , it's been a while since i've been saving for this one but i'll make sure i post some pics for it and for my rig !! and i hope u get yours sometimes very soon  |
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Post by jacoby3mnk on Oct 9, 2014 7:20:17 GMT -6
I love mine and was lucky enough to have it show up like this out of the box.   |
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Post by razorshred on Oct 9, 2014 8:27:49 GMT -6
ohhh nice !! that's what i'm talking about ! i just can't wait to get mine ! and how do u like its sound ? its finish ? etc ? pretty awesome hein ?
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Post by jacoby3mnk on Oct 9, 2014 13:02:34 GMT -6
I like mine as is. Everything about it is good for me. Still learning the switch from the 6 to 7 strings. My 3rd MAB signature guitar and love all of them.
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Post by razorshred on Oct 9, 2014 13:30:02 GMT -6
that's great to know jacoby3mnk , i am also switching from 6 to 7 and hope it would be kind of a smooth transition and not a hard phase . Love the trio you have by the way ! excellent taste !
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Post by Blue on Dec 17, 2014 7:16:45 GMT -6
Did you ever get the guitar? that's great to know jacoby3mnk , i am also switching from 6 to 7 and hope it would be kind of a smooth transition and not a hard phase . Love the trio you have by the way ! excellent taste ! Going from 6-string to 7-string is easy, doesn't matter if you have played for a year or 10 years IMO. Only difference is that you have to reposition your pickinghand a little bit to mute the seventh string also when you're not playing it. It's a very simple change, it takes like a week or two to get used to. Going from 6-string to 8-string directly is a bit harder though since it's requires an even bigger adjustment plus you'll need a longer scale length for an 8-string (if it has another low note string) so the frettinghand also needs to get used to that. |
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