glassyx
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Post by glassyx on Feb 17, 2009 6:00:01 GMT -6
Willjay!!! You should check this guy out!!! Hes crazy fast but definitely not great to listen to LOL HOW CAN J00 NOT LEIK TEH SWEEPIN ARPEGGIOZZZZ!111
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Post by GibsonLesPaul on Feb 17, 2009 6:24:48 GMT -6
I love the out of tune bend in the begining
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glassyx
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Post by glassyx on Feb 27, 2009 16:27:22 GMT -6
Why the angry name? Mellow out my friend, you can choose to have a positive attitude!
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Post by blackorchidx on Feb 27, 2009 17:00:15 GMT -6
that dude is an awesome player, such control
hes definitely fast and i would agree he can go faster, but hes very economy and legato based, non applicable to the thread
welcome by the way
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Post by Willjay on Mar 15, 2009 15:53:53 GMT -6
2 new OMG!! videos to check out.
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Post by kgbrad on Mar 15, 2009 22:57:54 GMT -6
I now have to clean the brains out of the side of my skull. Thank you
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scyll
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Post by scyll on Mar 16, 2009 11:37:48 GMT -6
2 new OMG!! videos to check out. just another 18/19 nps run. the truth of shredding ?
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Post by Dogman on Jun 12, 2009 13:59:22 GMT -6
What clip did you use for your Tony MacAlpine clocking?
Thanks
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Post by S-H on Jun 12, 2009 14:19:37 GMT -6
I know amongst them he used a couple of licks from Tony's "Shrapnel" video. I haven't watched it in ages, don't even know if it still works since it's an NTSC vid. But there were definitely licks from that vid.
I'm sure a few of the licks on "Edge of Insanity" and "Maximum Security" were top speed. The dude was such a sick player back then. WTF hapened to him?!
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Post by Yngtchie Blacksteen on Jun 12, 2009 15:15:10 GMT -6
Laziness. I know that a lot of people refuse to accept that he's not as good these days as he was back in the '80s, but that's the sad truth.
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Post by S-H on Jun 12, 2009 15:27:31 GMT -6
His tone is also 100 times worse now than it used to be.
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Post by Dogman on Jun 12, 2009 20:29:17 GMT -6
I know amongst them he used a couple of licks from Tony's "Shrapnel" video. I haven't watched it in ages, don't even know if it still works since it's an NTSC vid. But there were definitely licks from that vid. I'm sure a few of the licks on "Edge of Insanity" and "Maximum Security" were top speed. The dude was such a sick player back then. WTF hapened to him?! On 'Maximum Security', he didn't play all the licks 100% cleanly on the record, as this interview states: tonymacalpine.tripod.com/Discography/Maximum_Security_GFTPM_Promo_2.jpgThere you have it.
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Post by S-H on Jun 13, 2009 8:39:04 GMT -6
But remember, Colin, Willie uses 1 second clips and T-Mac played the individual passages cleanly, but couldn't (as he mentioned there) go from a sweep arpeggio passage into a full speed 3nps run without there being changeover noise. For the picking licks, he matched up 1 pickstroke with 1 fretted note VERY cleanly at the begin of his career. Since Willie only listened for the alt pick licks for this project, then the rest is irrelevent.
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Post by Jason on Jul 4, 2009 19:07:28 GMT -6
awful quality but still
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Post by Syv on Jul 9, 2009 18:22:11 GMT -6
there is a rumor floating around that at this year's NAMM 2009, Rusty Cooley has been clocked at 17 NPS. But like I said, it's just a rumor.
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Post by Willjay on Jul 12, 2009 1:35:21 GMT -6
Yeah, way too awful quality to confirm anything.
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Post by Willjay on Jul 12, 2009 1:52:17 GMT -6
there is a rumor floating around that at this year's NAMM 2009, Rusty Cooley has been clocked at 17 NPS. But like I said, it's just a rumor. The thing is.... every time i've clocked Rusty's fastest picking from a video, by using the audio from the video....... when i then actually slow the footage down and check it visually, his picking hand never seems to be actually picking every note. For example i remember clocking a video of him picking a run where the notes were about 16 nps, but when i cut the footage down to exactly 1 second, his picking hand (or for him, his whole arm) only moved up and down about 14 times in that same second. I know that can be expected if someone is intentionally 'Economy' picking a run.... but this wasn't (you can tell if a lick was intended to be economy picked by how many notes there are on each string, taking into consideration any postion shifts down the same string before the 'crossover' occurs). I'll see if i can find an example if i get time. Btw, apologies for my absense (of posting) lately....i've been working every day for the last 2 months on trying to finish a Shawn Lane project i've been working on for years now (creating a database of full track lists of every version of every gig of his that exists in a media form, either audio or video)
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scyll
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Post by scyll on Jul 12, 2009 5:38:31 GMT -6
there is a rumor floating around that at this year's NAMM 2009, Rusty Cooley has been clocked at 17 NPS. But like I said, it's just a rumor. Cooley's undoubtedly fast, but that's it then. His own music ***s, he hasn't written any decent tune yet. Not every guitarist is a true musician. Let him improvise over something in 15/8 and the result will very likely be horrid. And man, his picking arm movements do look clumsy...
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Post by ixenakis on Jul 30, 2009 11:11:22 GMT -6
LOL, this comment is so silly... You have a good point, not every guitar player is a true musician... agreed. Then, you say rusty is not all that great of a musician... I AGREE! Then you equate that to being able to play over a 15/8 meter? WHAT? Truth is, you probably ALSO don't know what it means to be a great musician, point being, its not being able to play over 15/8... there is a rumor floating around that at this year's NAMM 2009, Rusty Cooley has been clocked at 17 NPS. But like I said, it's just a rumor. Cooley's undoubtedly fast, but that's it then. His own music ***s, he hasn't written any decent tune yet. Not every guitarist is a true musician. Let him improvise over something in 15/8 and the result will very likely be horrid. And man, his picking arm movements do look clumsy...
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Post by guitarsrule on Jul 30, 2009 12:50:24 GMT -6
I like some of Cooley's songs...Maybe u havent given him much of a listen scyll...
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Post by S-H on Jul 30, 2009 16:42:41 GMT -6
Na, Cooley is a jank musician and not much better if we're analyzing him as JUST a player of the instrument.
Shoddy all round IMHO, though his vibrato is better now than on his debut album. Musically he hasn't improved though.
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Post by Syv on Jul 31, 2009 4:43:38 GMT -6
Heh, not too big a fan on his musicianship either.
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Post by scyll on Jul 31, 2009 9:42:37 GMT -6
guitarsrule: Hmm, dunno. Recently I was listening through his solo album as well as through Outworld: Musically not very interesting, nothing new or astonishing from the shred point of view. The same for his vids on youtube. Watching him, he's always too busy with both his picking arm and fret hand. Clean playing doesn't seem to be his strength. Good for him when he can play 17 nps, but surely with a grain of sloppiness and a lick complexity far below that of Lane/Holdsworth/McLaughlin. Now you might argue not to compare Cooley with these players, rightly so. BTW, which of his songs do you like ? steve: couldn't agree more with you, except that i haven't realized any improvement of his vib. @ixenakis: ähem, yes... you need to get your balls' pressure relieved, dude. I did not state that a necessary and sufficient condition for a great musician is the ability to greatly improvise over odd metres. Example: The pianist Bill Evans, neither as fast as Artum Tatum or Oscar Peterson nor a composer using odd time signatures, was a great musician imho. His use of block chords, polychords and bitonality in the context of jazz music was revolutionary, his lyrical style of improvisation extraordinary.
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Post by ixenakis on Jul 31, 2009 21:25:23 GMT -6
Then be careful not to make such emphatically stupid statements... all will be well when that happens I suppose. Re-read your original statement and tell me it isn't silly? ps- thats ART tatum, or arthur...not artum... guitarsrule: Hmm, dunno. Recently I was listening through his solo album as well as through Outworld: Musically not very interesting, nothing new or astonishing from the shred point of view. The same for his vids on youtube. Watching him, he's always too busy with both his picking arm and fret hand. Clean playing doesn't seem to be his strength. Good for him when he can play 17 nps, but surely with a grain of sloppiness and a lick complexity far below that of Lane/Holdsworth/McLaughlin. Now you might argue not to compare Cooley with these players, rightly so. BTW, which of his songs do you like ? steve: couldn't agree more with you, except that i haven't realized any improvement of his vib. @ixenakis: ähem, yes... you need to get your balls' pressure relieved, dude. I did not state that a necessary and sufficient condition for a great musician is the ability to greatly improvise over odd metres. Example: The pianist Bill Evans, neither as fast as Artum Tatum or Oscar Peterson nor a composer using odd time signatures, was a great musician imho. His use of block chords, polychords and bitonality in the context of jazz music was revolutionary, his lyrical style of improvisation extraordinary.
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Post by scyll on Aug 2, 2009 1:33:03 GMT -6
Then be careful not to make such emphatically stupid statements... all will be well when that happens I suppose. Re-read your original statement and tell me it isn't silly? ps- thats ART tatum, or arthur...not artum... guitarsrule: Hmm, dunno. Recently I was listening through his solo album as well as through Outworld: Musically not very interesting, nothing new or astonishing from the shred point of view. The same for his vids on youtube. Watching him, he's always too busy with both his picking arm and fret hand. Clean playing doesn't seem to be his strength. Good for him when he can play 17 nps, but surely with a grain of sloppiness and a lick complexity far below that of Lane/Holdsworth/McLaughlin. Now you might argue not to compare Cooley with these players, rightly so. BTW, which of his songs do you like ? steve: couldn't agree more with you, except that i haven't realized any improvement of his vib. @ixenakis: ähem, yes... you need to get your balls' pressure relieved, dude. I did not state that a necessary and sufficient condition for a great musician is the ability to greatly improvise over odd metres. Example: The pianist Bill Evans, neither as fast as Artum Tatum or Oscar Peterson nor a composer using odd time signatures, was a great musician imho. His use of block chords, polychords and bitonality in the context of jazz music was revolutionary, his lyrical style of improvisation extraordinary. Something for your education ixenakis: That's how Fats Waller called him, Artum Tatum. Apart from your imbecile allegations: Haven't talked about your balls' pressure. A different cause of tendinitis now ?
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