My List of Fastest Alternate Picking speeds

[S-H]

blue said:

One of the 16 NPS licks from Todd Duane you included in your "NPS project" Willjay is one of the sickest licks i've heard, incredibly fast and CLEAN, you can really hear every single note so clear.

You should buy his albums Blue. He is clean all the time & at his slowest of the fast speeds, it's still 15nps which is the max of Gilbert, Di Meola, Moore.

"Todd Duane"; "Omnipresent"; "Electric Cartoon Music From Hell" & "Eccentricity". You wont regret it.

Trust me when i say is debut which is on shrapnel is nothing what you'd expect from that label & in a good way.

He is doing his 4th solo album next year & possibly a 2nd E250 album. Apparently it may be all acoustic so McLaughlin may have a challenger to his "King of Acoustic Alt Pickers" crown.

His albums are full of licks like the "Ragweed" 16.5nps lick. "Poison Ivy" is equally as sick as is "Purple Umbrella" & there are very tasty alt picked licks in pretty much every song.

[MrIbanez]

All this talk of NPS is worthless imo.

ANDY VAN HATCHER FOR PRESIDENT HUZZAH HE IS GOD.
not

[shreddakj]

I CAN PLAY 80 NOTES PER SECOND!
What I do, is push a button on my pedalboard of death which slows time down to 1/80th of what it should be and then play. So in reality, My pedal does all the work and I just play really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really BADLY! and then I call myself guitar grand master and stuff.

[evilempire]

has anyone clocked Impellitteri in the song (Glory) from the victim of the system E.P ?

[shreddakj]

Message Willjay and ask him, or maybe he'll see it on here and reply. But he's the Clocking man.

[Willjay]

evilempire said:

has anyone clocked Impellitteri in the song (Glory) from the victim of the system E.P ?

I've just clocked it now for you.


Here is the song you're talking about : d.turboupload.com/d/1230870/Impellitteri_-_Glory.wma.html


Here is about the only fast picked lick in the song, he plays it twice, so i've edited them together in this clip : d.turboupload.com/d/1230880/Chris_Impellitteri_-_fast_picking_clips_from_.mp3.html




Here is exactly 1 second of that lick (13 nps) :
d.turboupload.com/d/1230886/Chris_Impellitteri_-_1_second_of_fast_picking_.mp3.html


Here is that 1 second clip slowed down (13 nps) :
d.turboupload.com/d/1230887/Chris_Impellitteri_-_1_second_of_fast_picking_.mp3.html


Here is another slowed down version of that 1 second clip (different pitch) (13 nps) :
d.turboupload.com/d/1230892/Chris_Impellitteri_-_1_second_of_fast_picking_.mp3.html



So there you go, the fastest Chris picks in that perticular song is 13 nps.


Hope that helps, in some way. ;D



WJ.

[Willjay]

I thought i'd give you guys a laugh and post a picking clip i recorded a few weeks ago ;D ... i'm not really happy with this clip, i wish i could record a better clip, a bit cleaner, mute better, and try not to catch the other string like i kept doing in this clip.... but i had to throw away my only lead last week, it died on me, so i can't record through the amp at the mo (though there's still my daughters little acoustic).


So here it is ... i think was sitting a bit close to the mic... you can hear the sound of my actual picking over the sound of the amp. ;D


Willie's picking clip : d.turboupload.com/d/1230946/Willies_little_picking_clip_2.mp3.html




Here is 1 second of fast picking from that - clip 1 (14 nps) :
d.turboupload.com/d/1230961/Willies_1_second_of_fast_picking_clip_1_14_.mp3.html

Here is that 1 second slowed down - clip 1 (14 nps) :
d.turboupload.com/d/1230962/Willies_1_second_of_fast_picking_clip_1_slo.mp3.html



Here is 1 second of fast picking from that - clip 2 (14 nps) :
d.turboupload.com/d/1230963/Willies_1_second_of_fast_picking_clip_2_14_.mp3.html

Here is that 1 second slowed down - clip 2 (14 nps) :
d.turboupload.com/d/1230966/Willies_1_second_of_fast_picking_clip_2_slo.mp3.html




Here is exactly 1 second of the `wrist tremelo picking` (14 nps, though it sounds like it may be 14.5) :
d.turboupload.com/d/1230952/Willies_1_second_of_wrist_tremelo_picking_1.mp3.html

Here is that slowed down (14 to 14.5 nps) :
d.turboupload.com/d/1230955/Willies_1_second_of_wrist_tremelo_picking_s.mp3.html



;D

[evilempire]

thnx willie u r the master of calculating NPS.

so i have a question , how can u calculate quarter notes ?

[Willjay]

evilempire said:

thnx willie u r the master of calculating NPS.

so i have a question , how can u calculate quarter notes ?

Thanks! ;D ...... What exactly do you mean by "quarter notes"??

[evilempire]

i mean if u calculate 8th,16th etc... how can u calculate quarter notes ?

[S-H]

Well actually, Wilfred Jordingham IV takes 1 second of a fast run & slows that down to 25%, then counts the notes played.

If you want to find your nps without this (only if you're clean!)- times the amount of notes per beat you are doing (ie- 8th notes= 2; 16ths= 4 etc) then times that by them tempo you're playing at (with a metronome) & then divide that number by 60.

Voila.

For example, Willie is a 14nps alt picker so in theory he should be able to do:

8th Notes @ 420bpm (2 x 420= 840/60= 14)
16th Notes @ 210bpm
5's @ 168bpm
Sextuplets @ 140bpm
7's @ 120bpm
32nd's @ 105bpm
9's @ 93bpm (well, it's 93.333nps)

etc.

To dishearten ya, here's what Shawn Lane could do at his fastest speed of 19nps alt picked:

8th Notes @ 570bpm
16th Notes @ 285bpm
5's @ 228bpm
Sextuplets @ 190bpm
7's @ 163bpm (rounded up from 162.9bpm)
32nd Notes @ 143bpm (rounded up from 142.5bpm)
9's @ 127bpm (rounded up from 126.666bpm)

I find the cheese knife best for slitting your wrists! Lol.

[evilempire]

i know how to calculate 8's,16's,32's and 64 but how do i calculate quarter (note duration) notes ?

[S-H]

Just double the tempo of the 8th notes.

For Willie's speed of 14nps that's the same as playing 1 note per metronome beat @ 840bpm.

[JEM LEGACY]

[glow=red,2,300]I let the tremelo and delay effects do the work for me, so I dont really know how fast I pick, with the effects it's 15nps [/glow]

[evilempire]

ok rivera or williejay , could anyone of u two calculate me while i masturbate a little on guitar ??

here is the link:


i think it's sloppy

[Willjay]

blue said:

One of the 16 NPS licks from Todd Duane you included in your "NPS project" Willjay is one of the sickest licks i've heard, incredibly fast and CLEAN, you can really hear every single note so clear.

Did you mean this lick??

d.turboupload.com/d/1232584/Todd_Duane_-_fast_picking_clip_4.mp3.html

[vonmuerte]

rivera213 said:

vonmuerte said:

Watching carefully the vid by Tony Lloret (hey he's catalan like me and David Valdes, don't be so cruel), i alsoo see that he's pretty messy at his two fastest sections, but even slowing it down as willie recommended i see that the he's not strict alt picking thing isn't as clear to me. I've watched the whole picking motion many times right now and he ends his picking most of the time just in the exact period-time he does when he plays it very slow and strict alternate picking: for example, if it should be up when he played it slow, he still picks up at a faster tempo. May be he doesn't every time when picking the repeated pattern, but he does it many times.

Still sloppy though.

I don't understand that Von.

In few words that when i slowed down the vid to see if he was strict alt picking or not i saw that to me Lloret does strict alt picking.

[vonmuerte]

Hey willie, that pickstrokes you can even hear without the amp and simply through the guitar give the impression you are playing with a drum machine (ala flight of the wounded bumble bee by bettencourt). The sound is very cool.

[playloup66]

Nice Todd Duane clips Willjay.

Todd is easily one of the fastest and cleanest pickers ever.

[Blue]

willjay said:

blue said:

One of the 16 NPS licks from Todd Duane you included in your "NPS project" Willjay is one of the sickest licks i've heard, incredibly fast and CLEAN, you can really hear every single note so clear.

Did you mean this lick??

d.turboupload.com/d/1232584/Todd_Duane_-_fast_picking_clip_4.mp3.html

Nope, i've never heard that one before, that clip was not in your "NPS Project", im talking about the bunch of clips you posted in the beginning of this year

I still have the folder, it contains exactly 308 files ;D

4 of them are fast clips from Duane, 3 @ 16 NPS and 1 @ 16.5 NPS.

[MrIbanez]

rivera213 said:

Mick Thomson (16-17nps)- as clean as Todd, i aint even joking.
Jim Root (15-16nps)- very clean.

LoL, No Rivera Just No.

rivera213 said:

Rivera- 13nps.

Vids or it didnt happen.

[S-H]

1- Do the maths: 7 x 136/60; 5 x 200/60. There we go then.

2- Do you want me to vid myself taking a dump too then so you believe i have an a-hole?! Lol.

[Willjay]

mribanez said:

rivera213 said:

Mick Thomson (16-17nps)- as clean as Todd, i aint even joking.
Jim Root (15-16nps)- very clean.

LoL, No Rivera Just No.

Ahahaha ;D .... Anyone have any vids or clips of him picking his fastest, or know what `moment` i can check, and i'll clock it.


I'm sure i got a guitar mag years ago with one of them (i think it was Mick) playing Malmsteen style excercises... i remember it being quite quick (but certainly not 17 nps), though i remember thinking it sounded quite "tremelo-ey", rather than note for note like Malmsteen does. He played one of Yngwie's descending runs (the one from "Trilogy Suite...).



I just found this video of Mick Thompson playing a chromatic picking exercise (about as easy as they come) : .... it didn't sound very accurate to me, and certainly nowhere near as accurate as Todd Duane, or as MAB plays it on his Star Licks video on a clean sound . In this video Mick plays it in groups of 4 at around 200 bpm... which is only a little over 13 nps (4x200 divided by 60 = 13.3 nps).


WJ.

[diabolet]

i dont think he could be as accurate as todd, he uses his arm to much on those chromatics.

[Blue]

diabolet said:

i dont think he could be as accurate as todd, he uses his arm to much on those chromatics.

How could anyone be? LOL ;D