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Post by BKW on Mar 14, 2005 16:09:36 GMT -6
As I had stated a few weeks ago, I have pulled my old guitar out of its case and started to beat on it again.
I was never very good at it and never could play any solos. My repertoire consists of a number of licks and rhythm sections from songs.
As we seem to have a number of excellent guitar players, I was wondering if anyone (or a group of you) of you would be willing to provide exercises, lessons and music theory on the forum?
I am not kidding myself by thinking I have a chance in blazes at going onstage at the MAB Gathering. I just want to learn, and be able to play some songs for my personal enjoyment.
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Post by Blondie on Mar 14, 2005 16:35:42 GMT -6
Do You have Speed Kills??
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Post by BKW on Mar 14, 2005 18:52:01 GMT -6
No,
I have Michaels' Star Licks Master Series, and had trouble with it.
It was way too advanced for me, and I got frustrated.
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Post by Blondie on Mar 16, 2005 6:35:57 GMT -6
a good place to start is separately develop Your Left and rights hands. Right (picking hand): Tremolo picking i.e. 16th notes alternate picking on the same string. Left (fretboard hand): Legato chromatic 4 notes per string. Like 1234 on all strings, then 5432 on all strings, thens 3456 on all strings etc. Always practice with a metronome starting slow at maybe 80 bpm, and slowly work Your way up through speed. Learn the C Major (Ionian) scale inside out (C,D,E,F,G,A,H,C) all over the fretboard. Then do the same with everyother scales/modes using my Modes for dummies deb13.proboards31.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1109684086 to figure them out.
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Post by Ernesto on Mar 16, 2005 9:12:02 GMT -6
No, I have Michaels' Star Licks Master Series, and had trouble with it. It was way too advanced for me, and I got frustrated. That is a very good video but you have to be able to blaze to play the stuffs he plays there if you don't have the ability to shred up to this point you won't be able to play anything from that video, of course if you try and practice i don't see why not but if you feel like you are not able to do anything from that video them don't waste your time on those licks and focus on what Blondie told you also another easy thing to learn is the blues scale and the pentatonic scale almost everyone who likes sheredding use these scale in certain ways, the other thing is exercise your left hand but more important than that is your right hand, most people believe that the left hand is the most important thing but in my opinion it is the right hand if you are a right hand player, practice your left hand by playing pull off and hammers w/o using your right hand don't pick, then practice a pentatonic scale using the alternate picking just my opinion ok (does not mean this the perfect training)
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Post by BKW on Mar 16, 2005 14:03:35 GMT -6
Ok,
It sounds like my first order of business is to procure a metronome.
I will start with some of these exercises. I will let you know if (and when) I have any questions. I am also trying to learn some cords (as I seem to use a very simple barre cord for most things)
I'll have to see if I can find a diagram of the C Major scale. I never learned any music theory - so most of the terms are foreign to me (heck I am trying to memorize the 6 string names). I am very interested in understanding it now, and will probably ask some stupid questions as I go through this.
One last thing, is the second to last note on the C Major scale supposed to be an ‘H’?
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Post by Ernesto on Mar 16, 2005 15:36:17 GMT -6
Ok, It sounds like my first order of business is to procure a metronome. I will start with some of these exercises. I will let you know if (and when) I have any questions. I am also trying to learn some cords (as I seem to use a very simple barre cord for most things) I'll have to see if I can find a diagram of the C Major scale. I never learned any music theory - so most of the terms are foreign to me (heck I am trying to memorize the 6 string names). I am very interested in understanding it now, and will probably ask some stupid questions as I go through this. One last thing, is the second to last note on the C Major scale supposed to be an ‘H’? There is not stupid question when we don't know, i will say all the questions you have are very smart cause you are trying to find out instead of make some believe you know in fact the only one that will be jeopardized will be you so any question you have if we can help you man just shoot it. If i was you try to focus in one at a time once you have this down then jump to the other one that way you can master each aspect, again that is up to you. Good luck
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Post by Luke on Mar 16, 2005 17:01:55 GMT -6
I can't stress enough how helpful Speed Kills is. It can benifit any level of guitarist. It'll have you blazing att the M.A.B Gathering
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Post by RobertChapman on Mar 16, 2005 17:30:55 GMT -6
theres an H is music?
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Post by Caleb on Mar 16, 2005 18:30:11 GMT -6
I think he ment G, because if u look at the key board G is right next to H
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Post by Luke on Mar 16, 2005 19:00:39 GMT -6
Yeah i think he ment B it was diffinatly a typo
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Post by BKW on Mar 16, 2005 20:37:08 GMT -6
Yeah i think he ment B it was diffinatly a typo Luke, I think you are right, because G is already in the scale (C,D,E,F, G,A,H,C) So it sounds like purchasing speed kills would be a good step as well. I'll have to save my pennies.
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Post by Blondie on Mar 17, 2005 1:55:10 GMT -6
I some European countrys including Denmark and Germany, b is actually called h. The story I've heard is that some German composer had written it as b, but the paper got worn or something so the bottomline of the b diappeared so it looked like a h. Don't know if it's true.
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Post by Ernesto on Mar 17, 2005 7:30:12 GMT -6
I some European countrys including Denmark and Germany, b is actually called h. The story I've heard is that some German composer had written it as b, but the paper got worn or something so the bottomline of the b diappeared so it looked like a h. Don't know if it's true. That is really interesting , i did not know that, you see we can always learn something new
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Post by Erikrt123 on Mar 17, 2005 12:55:15 GMT -6
I definately recommend SPEED KILLS!!!!!
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Post by Ernesto on Mar 17, 2005 13:35:11 GMT -6
[glow=red,2,300]Yeah[/glow]"SPEED KILLS" ;D
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Post by Luke on Mar 17, 2005 18:44:52 GMT -6
I wounder how Michael came up with the name "Speed Kills"
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Post by BKW on Mar 17, 2005 19:05:01 GMT -6
Back on topic ;D
I have started to work on my Legato chromatic (1234) up and down the fretboard, and I am noticing something that is (probably) not good.
When I am going downhill (from Low E to high E), all my fingers are staying relatively close to the strings. However on the way back up (high E to low E) my pinky finger seems to fly up as soon as I release my my ring finger.
By the time I am to just having my index finger on the fretboard my pinky and ring finger are an inch or more away.
Is this normal, or something that should be corrected (and if so, how?)?
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Post by Blondie on Mar 18, 2005 2:09:26 GMT -6
If You want to be as efficient as possible, You should correct it. Practice it py doing it superslow while consentrating 100% on that. Remember wich flaws You wanna work xtra on is always Your own decision. Only You know how much time You have on Your hands.
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Post by Ernesto on Mar 18, 2005 7:25:01 GMT -6
Back on topic ;D I have started to work on my Legato chromatic (1234) up and down the fretboard, and I am noticing something that is (probably) not good. When I am going downhill (from Low E to high E), all my fingers are staying relatively close to the strings. However on the way back up (high E to low E) my pinky finger seems to fly up as soon as I release my my ring finger. By the time I am to just having my index finger on the fretboard my pinky and ring finger are an inch or more away. Is this normal, or something that should be corrected (and if so, how?)? It is normal at first cause is what your fingers tend to do but if you watchit carefully and slow it down you will get use to be very close to the frettboard noenally the weakest finger is the pinky so that is the reason it tends to get away farther cause the other fingers are pulling the pinky one thing i do is just practice with the pinky and the Ring so i can have strenght with the pinky this is a very excellent excersise but be carefull if you start feeling some pain stop for a while but push yourself a little anyway(this indications are submited by EP but i am not responsible for any damages so don't even try to sue me)
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Post by BKW on Mar 18, 2005 16:06:17 GMT -6
Just a status on how I am doing (my fingers hurt ) I downloaded a software metronome just to get started. I have been practing a one octave major pattern starting on the 5th string. ------------------------------------ ------------------------------------ -----------1--------3----4--------- -----------1----2--------4--------- ----------------2--------4--------- ------------------------------------ I am starting to work on the speed, and slowly increasing the pace. Anyway after practicing for a few hours yesterday (without the metronome) today it was intresting that I had more problems trying to play it slowly than at a faster speed. I plan on starting to work on to the 2 octave major scale this weekend.
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Post by Blondie on Mar 18, 2005 23:51:11 GMT -6
Anyway after practicing for a few hours yesterday (without the metronome) today it was intresting that I had more problems trying to play it slowly than at a faster speed. That's why You should play slow with THAT metronome
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Post by BKW on Mar 22, 2005 11:57:29 GMT -6
It's not that my tempo goes awry when I play slow... It is that I make more fingering errors. Obviously at a certain speed... everything starts to fall apart (which is getting faster at this point).
But that middle ground is easier, as I probably am concentraiting more (or less) and the fingers just seem to know where to go.
By the way, the pads on my left hand have felt numb the last couple of days. I have been practing the two scales a lot the last week.
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Post by Ernesto on Mar 22, 2005 12:08:50 GMT -6
Just a status on how I am doing (my fingers hurt ) I downloaded a software metronome just to get started. I have been practing a one octave major pattern starting on the 5th string. ------------------------------------ ------------------------------------ -----------1--------3----4--------- -----------1----2--------4--------- ----------------2--------4--------- ------------------------------------ I am starting to work on the speed, and slowly increasing the pace. Anyway after practicing for a few hours yesterday (without the metronome) today it was intresting that I had more problems trying to play it slowly than at a faster speed. I plan on starting to work on to the 2 octave major scale this weekend. when you playing the a string from 2 to 4 are you using second finger and the fourth finger ?, cause this can be a good exercise for your pinky strenght, second one you mentioned numb well be carefull with it ok
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Post by BKW on Mar 22, 2005 12:42:47 GMT -6
when you playing the a string from 2 to 4 are you using second finger and the fourth finger ?, cause this can be a good exercise for your pinky strenght, second one you mentioned numb well be carefull with it ok When going from 2 -> 4 on the A string I am using my middle and pinky. I realized I should have said the pads of my fingers (my finger tips). Its more like the skin feels thick on my fingertips (must be building up some calluses!) So the they feel different, not exactly numb, but not as sensitive (if that makes any sense) Is that a concern? By the way, I have been working on the 2 octave scale consistantly: -----------1----2------------------ ----------------2--------4--------- -----------1--------3----4--------- -----------1--------3----4--------- -----------1----2--------4--------- ----------------2--------4--------- As well as the Legato chromatic 4 notes per string. going up (from the high E sting to low E) is a little tougher and going down.
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