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Post by (Insert User Name Here) on Sept 3, 2007 11:25:16 GMT -6
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Post by thepatient on Sept 4, 2007 0:21:53 GMT -6
do you know what alternate picking is?
it doesn't matter.
you sure do have bigger balls than i do.
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Post by Yngtchie Blacksteen on Sept 7, 2007 22:02:21 GMT -6
I take it you're not familiar with the term 'phrasing'? Well, you need to work on yours. Please stop trying to play fast.
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Post by (Insert User Name Here) on Sept 8, 2007 6:45:25 GMT -6
honestly i dont
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Post by Yngtchie Blacksteen on Sept 8, 2007 9:48:40 GMT -6
Well, phrasing is basically how you shape the notes. How hard you pick the note, adding vibrato, how long you hold it, etc. It's a common problem amongst beginners, especially in the shred community, but it's easy to fix. All you need is awareness, you need to be aware of what you're doing wrong.
First of all, learn how to add vibrato to notes. A firm, steady vibrato is often the key to sounding good. Listen to Gary Moore, he's got a very heavy and defined vibrato, one that is easy to use as a starting point to build your own. Check out "Still Got The Blues", it's a great bending and vibrato workout.
Use a low-gain tone, it'll make it easier to hear what you're doing.
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Post by (Insert User Name Here) on Sept 8, 2007 9:57:08 GMT -6
i find something kinda weird, when im playing witha full band i can make good music(and i phrase, but i didnt know i was doing it before) lol but when im not you get my improv stuff
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Post by thepatient on Sept 8, 2007 11:04:49 GMT -6
yeah, it's that way with everyone.... not.
phrasing is very important. people think not so much guitar as if piano, but it's equally important.
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Post by (Insert User Name Here) on Sept 8, 2007 12:04:17 GMT -6
im working on phrasing right now lol and i like it its not too fast for me to comprehend and its clean and not nonsense
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Post by S-H on Sept 8, 2007 12:14:49 GMT -6
You can actually practice phrasing by trying to make the cliche licks sound fresh & change notation etc.
There's actually no such thing as good or bad phrasing in terms of rules, BUT i personally think the best "phrasers" lie within the fusion category.
Travis, check out these players- Greg Howe, John McLaughlin, Shawn Lane, Scott Henderson, Allan Holdsworth, Guthrie Govan, Brett Garsed.
I personally love the straight jazz players too such as- Jim Hall, Joe Pass, Wes Montgomery, John Scofield, Pat Metheny, Howard Alden, George Benson, Pat Martino, Larry Carlton, Mike Stern.
Some blues & blues-rock players have excellent phrasing too for their genre- Albert King, Buddy Guy, B.B.King, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Jimmy Page, Muddy Waters, Gary Moore.
What alot of top top level players do is listen to phrasing by different instrumentalists (ie- Holdsworth looked into Coltrane), to see how they approach note choice, note legths, accentuation, dynamics etc.
The main difference from guitar playing original licks and piano playing works by composers is that the compser has already chosen the notes and notation so its up to you HOW to play them but you work within what's presented.
It's so much harder writning a phrase from scratch than putting a spin on an already existing piece of music.
Anyways, original phrasing comes with time- you'll start by ripping off players you listen to but then you'll eventually find your own style.
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Post by (Insert User Name Here) on Sept 8, 2007 12:25:22 GMT -6
well i love all minor scales cuz they are kinda dark and they lead to something big so im searching for a minor scale, can you post a minor?
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Post by S-H on Sept 8, 2007 12:51:42 GMT -6
Here's A Minor:
----------------------------------------------------------------12-13-15-17~~~
-----------------------------------------------10-12-13-15---------------------
------------------------------------9-10-12--------------------------------------
----------------------7-9-10-12-------------------------------------------------
-------------7-8-10--------------------------------------------------------------
-5-7-8-10-----------------------------------------------------------------------
With using this particular scale, you have to start any lick you want to be "minor" on the A note (all in red) otherwise you are playing a different mode and while all in the KEY of Am, the lick itself wont have the sound/tonality (based on the interval spacing) of minor. If you start a lick on, say the E note, you'll have E Phrygian, an while Phrygian is a minor type scale (because of the b3 in it's scale forumla), it wont actually sound minor, it's more of a eastern minor sound depending on how you phrase it. (Everything comes down to phrasing).
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Post by (Insert User Name Here) on Sept 8, 2007 13:05:32 GMT -6
i do know tha tif it is an "a,e,b,or c"(just examples) you have to play and a scale startign with a, e scale startign with e, or you have some other scale
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Post by (Insert User Name Here) on Sept 8, 2007 13:09:44 GMT -6
great my video is too large, wtf? how do ppl get hour long videos then?
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Post by S-H on Sept 8, 2007 13:11:12 GMT -6
I'm not talking about transposing a scale up or down the neck, i'm talking about using that particular pattern i posted.
If you start on any note which ISN'T red, then you aren't playing an Am lick.
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Post by (Insert User Name Here) on Sept 8, 2007 13:20:10 GMT -6
oh ok lol
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Post by S-H on Sept 8, 2007 14:21:43 GMT -6
great my video is too large, wtf? how do ppl get hour long videos then? Upload it on video.google.com The vid size capacity is bigger than You Tube. |
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Post by (Insert User Name Here) on Sept 8, 2007 14:28:36 GMT -6
great my video is too large, wtf? how do ppl get hour long videos then? Upload it on video.google.com The vid size capacity is bigger than You Tube. accually its 100mb like myspace and mine is like 160mb |
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Post by (Insert User Name Here) on Sept 8, 2007 15:01:27 GMT -6
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Post by (Insert User Name Here) on Sept 8, 2007 15:14:55 GMT -6
just a before video, in likea week ill post the imporved solo, cu zim not changeing the rythem, same licks but different sequence, and it wil lbe way to long if i do post it
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Post by blackorchidx on Sept 8, 2007 17:02:41 GMT -6
Here's A Minor: ----------------------------------------------------------------12-13-15- 17~~~ ----------------------------------------------- 10-12-13-15--------------------- ------------------------------------9-10-12-------------------------------------- ---------------------- 7-9-10-12------------------------------------------------- -------------7-8-10-------------------------------------------------------------- - 5-7-8-10----------------------------------------------------------------------- With using this particular scale, you have to start any lick you want to be "minor" on the A note (all in red) otherwise you are playing a different mode and while all in the KEY of Am, the lick itself wont have the sound/tonality (based on the interval spacing) of minor. If you start a lick on, say the E note, you'll have E Phrygian, an while Phrygian is a minor type scale (because of the b3 in it's scale forumla), it wont actually sound minor, it's more of a eastern minor sound depending on how you phrase it. (Everything comes down to phrasing). dont give him 3 octave scales steve, thats grade 7 stuff haha good thing to learn though |
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Post by (Insert User Name Here) on Sept 8, 2007 17:06:20 GMT -6
woops didnt really understand the post now i do
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Post by Nathanl on Sept 12, 2007 22:35:10 GMT -6
Dude you have a nice axe  like it alot |
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Post by kingofdarkness (red Panda) on Sept 18, 2007 21:47:15 GMT -6
I personally love the straight jazz players thats abit homophobic isnt it steve  |
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like it alot