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Post by fullshredd on Nov 7, 2009 16:29:43 GMT -6
Have you often wondered what rich folks eat at restaurants? Ok... Well, here's a receipt for a meal purchased by Russian Billionaire Roman Abramovich for himself and five friends a little over a week ago in NYC. Can you imagine being the waiter/waitress for the table? Look at that mandatory 20% tip!   |
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Post by blackorchidx on Nov 7, 2009 16:39:08 GMT -6
whats with all the truffle stuff, its nice but i'd prefer just a choco cappucino from starbucks
the food list pretty much ***s, give me $1000 and i could make food for that table that they wouldnt taste the difference and save a fortune,
then tip me $200,
just a status symbol for a bunch of stuck up toffee nosed twats, the fact the ticket was released too, just shows you, more money than sense
hardly anything on that list costs much, the most expensive material is the truffle which is like $5000 for an ounce
oh and the Cristal, totally worth it, that stuff is the bomb, the only thing thats a good buy
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Post by sikanex on Nov 7, 2009 17:06:00 GMT -6
The bill is not that expensive if you take out all the BOTTLES of finest drinks you can buy... I mean, its 35,000 dollars of drinks. That leaves ca. $1,600 meal... that is not ABSURD for 6 people. Avg. $266 per person... its an expensive dinner, but nothing out of this planet.
When you consider that the dude is a billionaire, this is nothing... the time he spent having the meal netted him 10x this amount in interest.
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Post by roboblaze on Nov 7, 2009 17:38:04 GMT -6
What a racket, I need to get something like that going, anyone up for a $500 hug.
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Post by S-H on Nov 7, 2009 18:00:57 GMT -6
Appalling.
But I find it amusing someone would spend $5k on 1 bottle of wine even though the absolute EXPERT wine tasters can be fooled by some cheap plonk made in someone's bedroom.
Can't say I'd mind being the waiter for that table though......... It's called hypocrisy, but my EBMM Petrucci would make me feel better. ;D
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Post by Shredzie on Nov 7, 2009 18:47:02 GMT -6
I just had a meal with 2 friends that totaled about this much. J/K
Seems stupid, but if you're a Billionaire, hey why not. lol
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Post by Brian on Nov 7, 2009 23:21:34 GMT -6
Can't believe these places have such expensive food. 12 bucks for a water???!!! They probably have a filter and just give it to you from the tap lmao.
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Post by Syv on Nov 8, 2009 15:05:09 GMT -6
It's probably bottled water from the Alps.
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Post by TheLivingDead on Nov 8, 2009 21:44:46 GMT -6
Wow... It'd be nice to see some of that money used for something charitable. Meh... Whatever...
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Post by joeyjojojojojojo on Nov 9, 2009 0:36:55 GMT -6
Haha bit random i logged in randomly and saw this. As some of you know i'm travelling and im in australia atm and ive recently got a job as a bartender in one of the nicest restaurants in perth. They have plates on the wall, framed, which have been signed by some of the celebrities that have eaten there. They include 100s but a few you will recognise, r.e.m , santana, michael jackson, tommy lee to name a few.
The richest man in australia is a regular infact i poured him a beer the other day. I learnt all about the 80 million dollar house he just bought by the swan river.
I usually hate people who places 'because they know someone' but i have to admit i was pretty happy to get this job because my uncle suggested me to the boss lol.
Anyway i have to wear a bow tie and waist coat and shiney shoes its a whole differant world to what im used to. Its the strangest thing. I used to hate the super rich, but once you meet them you realise they are actually very friendly and down to earth people who the majority have worked very hard for their money.
Ive made a few mistakes though, which i believe throw light on the posh sharade of some wine snobs. 2 rather expensive glasses of red wine were ordered. Two differant bottles. I accidently poured it into white wine glasses which are much smaller. So i tipped it into red wine glasses and topped up the glasses. But i couldnt remember which was which as both wines the se color! So i guessed and got it wrong. The wine was taken out as i didnt want to have wasted 2 glasses of rather expensive wine. The customers recived their glasses of wine which thanks to me were half and half of 2 differant wines. I watched with nervousness as they slowly lift their glasses up to their lips to have a sip. They drank, and looked very satisfied with their expensive wine, and even talked to each other about what flavours they got on their rich snobby pallettes. And guess what they were both getting differant flavours!!!! I cant beleive i got away with it.
The food is worth that amount of money though it really is in a differant league to anything else ive tried
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Post by Shredzie on Nov 10, 2009 14:10:38 GMT -6
Haha bit random i logged in randomly and saw this. As some of you know i'm travelling and im in australia atm and ive recently got a job as a bartender in one of the nicest restaurants in perth. They have plates on the wall, framed, which have been signed by some of the celebrities that have eaten there. They include 100s but a few you will recognise, r.e.m , santana, michael jackson, tommy lee to name a few. The richest man in australia is a regular infact i poured him a beer the other day. I learnt all about the 80 million dollar house he just bought by the swan river. I usually hate people who places 'because they know someone' but i have to admit i was pretty happy to get this job because my uncle suggested me to the boss lol. Anyway i have to wear a bow tie and waist coat and shiney shoes its a whole differant world to what im used to. Its the strangest thing. I used to hate the super rich, but once you meet them you realise they are actually very friendly and down to earth people who the majority have worked very hard for their money. Ive made a few mistakes though, which i believe throw light on the posh sharade of some wine snobs. 2 rather expensive glasses of red wine were ordered. Two differant bottles. I accidently poured it into white wine glasses which are much smaller. So i tipped it into red wine glasses and topped up the glasses. But i couldnt remember which was which as both wines the se color! So i guessed and got it wrong. The wine was taken out as i didnt want to have wasted 2 glasses of rather expensive wine. The customers recived their glasses of wine which thanks to me were half and half of 2 differant wines. I watched with nervousness as they slowly lift their glasses up to their lips to have a sip. They drank, and looked very satisfied with their expensive wine, and even talked to each other about what flavours they got on their rich snobby pallettes. And guess what they were both getting differant flavours!!!! I cant beleive i got away with it. The food is worth that amount of money though it really is in a differant league to anything else ive tried Very cool story man! LOL |
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Post by SendHelp on Nov 10, 2009 16:01:38 GMT -6
It's sad that one measley meal for 6 people is the cost of some people's annual salary. Is this why there are lay-off's and no one can get a job?
Lay off a few workers so you and your buddies can go laugh it up at Nello's.
It's actually pretty funny. At least the water is only $12 LOL. Actually it could have been worse, at least they didn't order $200 bottled water, I saw an article before about the crazy expensive water available at rich hotels, you wouldn't believe it.
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Post by sikanex on Nov 11, 2009 8:21:33 GMT -6
I often get annoyed in these topics because people tend to get all high and mighty about how others spend there money, and usually people jump to extreme conclusions... One of the things people need to consider is, this guy has (if I remember correctly) 9 BILLION dollars as a net worth. I think people here have a hard time understanding what that truly means, the guy can barely spend his money before his investments replenish themselves via interest alone. A guy like this is making close to $1 million a day, think about that for a second... Second, a guy like this has probably given more to taxes in 1 year than everyone here will MAKE in their entire lives. Another point is to consider how much a person with a net worth like this probably has given via donations, etc... Lastly, consider that, if anything, this sort of spending is exactly what a person like this SHOULD do from "your" perspectives (here to everyone in the thread being negative towards the amount he is spending). The worse thing a person like this can do is become extremely tight on spending, making sure that all that happens is that he accumulates money and spends none. Think about it like this, the guy just "donated" 8,000 dollars of TIP alone to the people working at this restaurant. Thats a substantial boost to all the waiters in the restaurant, who will feel a difference when that money is put into their own pockets. (granted, it won't be alot when divided by everyone... it is still a high % of the daily chunk) A guy like this functions as a walking stimulus package in a way, everywhere he goes money is infused into that particular system. Lastly, consider, for all of those who have gotten all high and mighty... that a starving kid in ethiopia likely finds YOU guys to be the exact same extravagant ultra spender who have hundreds of items that are totally superfluous. I think it is hypocritical to criticize someone with 100 or 1000 or even 10,000 times your spending power when you are all in a sense a mini version of the same cog. In a way, I would venture to bet that a person who has put together a fortune of 9 billion, is very likely much more efficient with their money than most people here in regards to how much he spends in relation to his total income, net worth, investments, etc. If you are going to criticize, do so understanding that anytime you get something for yourself or do something fun that is totally unrelated to "surviving", someone in a worse off situation than yourself might view you in the same light as you have seen this person. The money for a guitar and certainly the money for a second instrument could easily have helped out starving people in Somalia... time wasted on the internet could have been used to provide food at a food bank, or help at a local shelter, etc. in the end, what tends to happen is, alot of people look into the super ULTRA rich like this and say "YEAH, HE SHOULD HELP EVERYONE ELSE"... and when you ask that same person, "hey, but why don't you help more yourself"... they usually retort that "I don't have enough money for that". In the end, it is easy to deflect societal problems onto others we think can fix them, awhile we do nothing or close to nothing. That is something everyone needs to consider, and if they can honestly say they are going BEYOND their duty to help others... maybe then they can cast that first stone. I somehow doubt that kids and young adults on an internet guitar forum (an expensive hobby for most who likely spend more money on it than they will ever get back AND more money on their hobby than the avg person in durfur will see in 100 years of work), have enough perspective to criticize someone who "spends money on things that are not necessary". *RANT OFF* It's sad that one measley meal for 6 people is the cost of some people's annual salary. Is this why there are lay-off's and no one can get a job? Lay off a few workers so you and your buddies can go laugh it up at Nello's. It's actually pretty funny. At least the water is only $12 LOL. Actually it could have been worse, at least they didn't order $200 bottled water, I saw an article before about the crazy expensive water available at rich hotels, you wouldn't believe it. |
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Post by S-H on Nov 11, 2009 10:43:24 GMT -6
I couldn't disagree more.
It's a hell of a lot easier to give money to charity if you have 9 zeros at the end of your worth than not even 1. He wont miss 10% of his worth, if those on the average wage gave 10% to charity, it could likely hinder payment of a council tax bill.
Some simple maths here:
10% of 8.7 billion = 870 million, total left = 7.83 billion
10% of 15,000 = 1,500, total left = 13,500 before tax, food, gas/electric, council tax, petrol etc
Most people have savings accounts after 10 years barely in 5 figures because of the outgoings. I agree that people who spend loads on guitars and possibly can't even play them can't exactly moan about those doing the same in a larger scale, but Roman wouldn't ven miss the 10%, for the average working class person it would mean a hell of a lot.
Also, the tax he is paying is going to an already rich country. Had he spent $45k on food in Somalia then sure, good on him, but he spent it in a plush restaurant in New York. Not exactly giving to the people who really need it, is it?
He hasn't given to places outside of where he has been based EVER. For a man who used to be worth £12bn, that's morally wrong IMO.
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Post by blackorchidx on Nov 11, 2009 11:25:02 GMT -6
The point the Roberto made though is a lot of people are being incredibly harsh towards the rich just because they wouldn't miss the money.
Back to the point at hand, just because a billionaire puts money into the countries that put him where he was, that is a bad thing?
The problem with somalia is far above wealth, its to do with diplomacy and manpower, just like Iraq and just like Afghanistan.
If you opened a school in any of those locations, it would either be attacked, raided or converted into a barracks within a week of a billionaire spending money.
And that is helping? giving money to the cartels and corrupt government?
Doesn't matter how many millions you throw and any of these places, you would be as well sending a cheque to the terrorist/corrupt government/cartel groups.
So with that out of the way, what does his money being spent in our countries do you might ask?
Military which fight in these locations already discussed
Hospitals which look after our sick
Schools so we and our children become educated and CAN contribute back to society
But that is morally wrong though?
seriously....
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Post by sikanex on Nov 11, 2009 13:29:26 GMT -6
Consider that the lifestyle of a person with that much money is alot more expensive than that of someone with 15,000 in the bank... in the end, both are likely spending money on things that are above living necessities.
I have a hard time swallowing such talk of "immoral" spending from people who likely do the exact same within their own social level.
In the end, most people spend money inefficiently, it simply becomes a matter of how much money they have to spend incorrectly.
Consider the unnecessary money being spent by us now talking on the internet... that money (monthly) is what some people in very poor countries make in MONTHS of hard, back breaking work... should we then not also cut our "unneeded" spending and send the difference to someone in a more dire need of money?
I just think that people should be allowed to spend their money as they please, after all, it was THEM who earned it and who maintain it. The wrong choices by them will cause them to lose vast sums of money, the right choice will allow them to accumulate more wealth... just know that there is always someone out there that thinks the way "you" spend money is also "stupid" or "superfluous". In the end, we all simply live within our means... it just so happens his means far exceed most people on the planet. So be it.
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Post by Brian on Nov 11, 2009 16:22:33 GMT -6
For the record my comment was about the food being too expensive for what it is actually worth in the long run, I don't care what rich people do with their money. If I had 9 billion I would probably buy a bunch of crap I didn't need and not care about prices either. And I do give to charity every year.
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Post by blackorchidx on Nov 11, 2009 17:45:44 GMT -6
For the record my comment was about the food being too expensive for what it is actually worth in the long run, I don't care what rich people do with their money. If I had 9 billion I would probably buy a bunch of crap I didn't need and not care about prices either. And I do give to charity every year. yeah that was my comment earlier too, that places exist to exploit the rich when they wouldn't know the difference between cheap and expensive food |
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Post by sikanex on Nov 11, 2009 18:11:44 GMT -6
No worries, I was speaking generally... I did not have your comment in mind. For the record my comment was about the food being too expensive for what it is actually worth in the long run, I don't care what rich people do with their money. If I had 9 billion I would probably buy a bunch of crap I didn't need and not care about prices either. And I do give to charity every year. |
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Post by S-H on Nov 11, 2009 18:31:00 GMT -6
@ Ali- I know exactly the point Roberto was making but just don't agree with it at all.
Don't claim Abramovich is helping our hospitals, schools etc by spending money here. He EARNS money much more money in the UK than he is obliged to give out so therefore benefits from our country much more-so than we benefit from his spending.
It's in HIS interest to stay here more-so than in our interest for him to stay here. We are lucky enough to be a rich country regardless of the non-British multi-millionaire/billionaires spending money here.
Somalia has loads of issues, but aid given will likely result in food given directly to the people who need it, medical help and schools. It's not all pirates and militia. I went to school with a Somalian who directly received aid from British charities and went on to get straight A's in his GCSE's in the UK (he left Somalia when he was 10). That was guaranteed not to happen if money wasn't given to those charities.
There will always be trouble in 3rd world countries while they remain 3rd world countries. To not give money to those who live in a 3rd world country (and by that I don't mean the governments) is a convenient excuse IMO.
I also somewhat doubt Abramovich sitting on his yacht overlooking the Med would think "Wow, I'm so lucky to have this". That implies he has a conscience.
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@ Roberto- Lol, if Abramovich's life is more expensive than the average person it's because he CHOSE his life to be more expensive.
Did anyone put a gun to his head telling him to buy a mansion in London or various yachts now moored in Monaco?
And btw, his life isn't more expensive when you compare it to the average person. Obviously it is numerically, but not in relation to his wealth.
He is still very much in the black (understatement of the century) when all his outgoings are totted up and compared to what he earns per year, whereas someone on the average wage will almost be guaranteed to pay out more than they earn on even the essentials. Granted, that's not the fault of his or other multi-millionaire/billionaire businessmen, but what you're saying isn't true in the real world.
I'm sure he could survive on a few billion whereas trying not to run up debts in ubran London, for example, is extremely hard given the rates of council tax, rent etc not being based on income for the most part.
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Post by sikanex on Nov 11, 2009 18:40:24 GMT -6
Forgive me steve, but, is there someone holding a gun to your head so that you may argue this point on the internet as opposed to using this exact time to help the homeless or feed the children of Africa? My point still stands... we all use our time as we see fit, and few if any truly devote their entire lives and wages to ONLY life essential causes. He has billions to work with in his free time, and so it is more visible... however, if one is to rise on such a high a horse, they better make damn sure that their entire existence is not the same as a billionaire's, only with less money to throw away into superfluous things (like internet forums, guitars, dvd's, cd's, etc). Easy to ask those with more perceived power to do everything awhile we idle sit around... much harder to realize that most people are not looking for billions of dollars, only a little attention and care. Anyone here can offer great hope and help to hundreds of people in their own cities... most will just complain that "some billionaire is not helping when he should"... how convenient for "us" that we don't have those billions, that way we can all just complain and idle stand by ourselves. @ Ali- I know exactly the point Roberto was making but just don't agree with it at all. Don't claim Abramovich is helping our hospitals, schools etc by spending money here. He EARNS money much more money in the UK than he is obliged to give out so therefore benefits from our country much more-so than we benefit from his spending. It's in HIS interest to stay here more-so than in our interest for him to stay here. We are lucky enough to be a rich country regardless of the non-British multi-millionaire/billionaires spending money here. Somalia has loads of issues, but aid given will likely result in food given directly to the people who need it, medical help and schools. It's not all pirates and militia. I went to school with a Somalian who directly received aid from British charities and went on to get straight A's in his GCSE's in the UK (he left Somalia when he was 10). That was guaranteed not to happen if money wasn't given to those charities. There will always be trouble in 3rd world countries while they remain 3rd world countries. To not give money to those who live in a 3rd world country (and by that I don't mean the governments) is a convenient excuse IMO. I also somewhat doubt Abramovich sitting on his yacht overlooking the Med would think "Wow, I'm so lucky to have this". That implies he has a conscience. ---- @ Roberto- Lol, if Abramovich's life is more expensive than the average person it's because he CHOSE his life to be more expensive. Did anyone put a gun to his head telling him to buy a mansion in London or various yachts now moored in Monaco? And btw, his life isn't more expensive when you compare it to the average person. Obviously it is numerically, but not in relation to his wealth. He is still very much in the black (understatement of the century) when all his outgoings are totted up and compared to what he earns per year, whereas someone on the average wage will almost be guaranteed to pay out more than they earn on even the essentials. Granted, that's not the fault of his or other multi-millionaire/billionaire businessmen, but what you're saying isn't true in the real world. I'm sure he could survive on a few billion whereas trying not to run up debts in ubran London, for example, is extremely hard given the rates of council tax, rent etc not being based on income for the most part. |
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Post by Mr.Tepes on Nov 11, 2009 20:15:04 GMT -6
I agree with Roberto, and would like to further flesh out a few points:
1. Everytime he spends money, it's not like it just vanishes into thin air and he has a nice shiny new boat. That money goes somewhere; that money goes on to help someone down the line. It's much better that he is spending his money, rather than letting it accumulate and not benefiting anybody, including himself. Ok, it's not going to Somalia...so what? We can only help Africa now? Throwing money at a problem like that isn't going to help. There are many underlying problems in third-world countries like this which are hotly debated by economists, etc. as we speak. Long story short, money is not the problem, money is not the solution. But that is a whole 'nother argument...
2. He is not Paris Hilton. From what I understand (I may be wrong) he had a very rough early life, and had to work very hard to be where he is now. Surely if you work hard for your money, you would want to spend it how you see fit? If I had that amount of money, I sure as sh*t wouldn't be taking my friends to a meal at Mcdonalds.
3. He has given millions of dollars to charity, if not hundreds of millions. Which might not be much to him, but is mostly likely a higher percentage of his wealth than what most of us have given to charity. Steve, you say a poorer person would miss 10% if they gave it up, and he wouldn't...but where do you draw the line for when 10% is significant or not? To me, anyways, 10% is a significant amount no matter how much money you have. Just because he has a huge net worth does not mean that all his assets are liquid, meaning if he gave 10% of his total net worth to charity or something along those lines, he would miss it a lot more than you might think. You can retort with something along the lines of "Oh boo hoo, he will only be able to get a 100 foot instead of a 200 foot yacht". But at the same time, someone with who donates 10% of 15,000 wouldn't be absolutely devastated either. Maybe they'll have to buy a Civic instead of a Corvette. Same concept.
4. People lament over how people like him spend money, when they themselves are often much more inefficient in their spending habits. After all, if he was inefficient, he would not have the financial status he does. Again, if I had his money, I would have a higher standard of living than I do now, therefore paying more to maintain it, and I seriously doubt anyone else wouldn't do the same. If anything, I bet the average person would have a higher standard of living, rather than using their money efficiently, and burn out. I hear about *** like this all the time with regards to lottery winners and the like. I also saw a story of a man who was given 100,000 dollars to do whatever he wants with, and he pissed it all away on bullsh*t. So would the average person. So no one can fault him for the way he lives, when most likely if they were put in the same position, they would be spending much more than he does.
Whew. That being said, I am 100% jealous of that bastard, and wish I had his business savvy.
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Post by sikanex on Nov 11, 2009 21:06:44 GMT -6
Fine points, I agree. I agree with Roberto, and would like to further flesh out a few points: 1. Everytime he spends money, it's not like it just vanishes into thin air and he has a nice shiny new boat. That money goes somewhere; that money goes on to help someone down the line. It's much better that he is spending his money, rather than letting it accumulate and not benefiting anybody, including himself. Ok, it's not going to Somalia...so what? We can only help Africa now? Throwing money at a problem like that isn't going to help. There are many underlying problems in third-world countries like this which are hotly debated by economists, etc. as we speak. Long story short, money is not the problem, money is not the solution. But that is a whole 'nother argument... 2. He is not Paris Hilton. From what I understand (I may be wrong) he had a very rough early life, and had to work very hard to be where he is now. Surely if you work hard for your money, you would want to spend it how you see fit? If I had that amount of money, I sure as sh*t wouldn't be taking my friends to a meal at Mcdonalds. 3. He has given millions of dollars to charity, if not hundreds of millions. Which might not be much to him, but is mostly likely a higher percentage of his wealth than what most of us have given to charity. Steve, you say a poorer person would miss 10% if they gave it up, and he wouldn't...but where do you draw the line for when 10% is significant or not? To me, anyways, 10% is a significant amount no matter how much money you have. Just because he has a huge net worth does not mean that all his assets are liquid, meaning if he gave 10% of his total net worth to charity or something along those lines, he would miss it a lot more than you might think. You can retort with something along the lines of "Oh boo hoo, he will only be able to get a 100 foot instead of a 200 foot yacht". But at the same time, someone with who donates 10% of 15,000 wouldn't be absolutely devastated either. Maybe they'll have to buy a Civic instead of a Corvette. Same concept. 4. People lament over how people like him spend money, when they themselves are often much more inefficient in their spending habits. After all, if he was inefficient, he would not have the financial status he does. Again, if I had his money, I would have a higher standard of living than I do now, therefore paying more to maintain it, and I seriously doubt anyone else wouldn't do the same. If anything, I bet the average person would have a higher standard of living, rather than using their money efficiently, and burn out. I hear about *** like this all the time with regards to lottery winners and the like. I also saw a story of a man who was given 100,000 dollars to do whatever he wants with, and he pissed it all away on bullsh*t. So would the average person. So no one can fault him for the way he lives, when most likely if they were put in the same position, they would be spending much more than he does. Whew. That being said, I am 100% jealous of that bastard, and wish I had his business savvy. |
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Post by S-H on Nov 12, 2009 11:20:50 GMT -6
@ Rob- You seem to think I want every rich person to give ALL their money to charity. I don't mind rich, or people of any level of wealth, spending money on stuff they don't need but would want but I know far well Abramovich hasn't given 10%+ to charity. People with an ego like him would make it abundantly clear to everyone he has given money to charity, the exact amounts, the charity names etc... The only money he's given away was spent on the region he was the governor of. It was in HIS interest to spend money on that area and as soon as he was no longer governor, his spending stopped. Also, you're assuming I'm being hypocritical. Let me tell you that I have given WAY more than 10% of my life's wealth to various charities, I just (until now) didn't want feel a need to tell the world. I don't have a continuous income so therefore the number is pretty meager, but it's all relative. -------------- @ Tepes- I don't think you know enough about Abramovich to argue on his behalf tbph, but I'll answer the points: 1: Money is a huge part of the problem in 3rd world countries. It's a huge part of problems of ANY country. The limited few having the majority of the wealth. It's an extremely convenient excuse to say money wont solve the problem, so what's the point giving them any. A greater economy would help 3rd world countries immensely so don't give me this "money ain't the problem" ***. Money makes the world go round whether you agree with it or not. I used Somalia as an example. 2: He had a rough life early on for sure (both parents dying before he was 4 years old and never having a stable home), which is why I hoped he would've had a greater perspective of the value of money. He obviously doesn't if he can spend $45k on food and drink and not bat an eyelid. I certainly wouldn't be able to do that if I had grown up in a ***-hole like he did and be sitting on a fortune like he is. 3: Well, Abramovich has only given to causes he has been directly involved in. He hasn't given any money to charities which he doesn't benefit in some way from. That is known as selfish giving in my book. And yes, giving 10% of £15k will mean a lot more for someone in my area than giving 10% of £9bn. It's moronic to think otherwise. Abramovich will not struggle to pay bills if he lost 10%, hell he lost £3bn from the recent recession & he's still pretty comfortable don't you agree? Losing 10% of £15k when the outgoings are potentially more than that to start with can be extremely detrimental for people in urban London. It could mean eviction as a result of not paying the ridiculous £1k council tax per adult, regardless of wage. I really doubt Abramovich is in constant danger of being evicted or not being able to buy food.  Also, I personally think 10% is STANDARD. You can't argue because others don't give 10%, it's a big amount. Everyone who gives less than that are in the wrong, and 2 wrongs don't make a right. I'd be impressed with 20%+ from someone of his wealth. That would make a big difference if everyone of a wealth of £500m+ gave 20%. 4: He is insufficient with his spending but luckily his earnings are making interest so he can afford to spend money on extravagant things and not feel it. You seem to think I think Abramovich should live in a 2-bed semi in Hackney. I would buy a nicer house in a nicer area too if I had his money. I would be target of robberies and blackmail if I stayed in SE London. But I only brought up the point of mansions and yachts because Rob said his lifestyle is more expensive so therefore needs to spend more. It's obviously his choice to have a more expensive lifestyle so that point doesn't have any substance IMO. If I won the lottery, you can guarantee more than 20% would be going to charity from a cheque signed by yours truly. Whatever I do with the rest is up to me (and you can guarantee a lot of guitars too good for me to play. Lol). The reason I dislike Abramovich so much is because I know he doesn't give his 20% so therefore the extravagance of his spending is magnified. Had he given 20% to charity (and trust me, if he did/has we'd know about it) then I wouldn't say too much about what he does with the other 80% (although spending $5k on a bottle of wine is stupid IMO when experts can't tell the difference in quality in blind tests). BTW- It's not ALL business savvy. Investments can go either way and luck plays a big part but you have to be bold to start with I suppose. However, he got in with some VERY powerful men in Russia (including THE most powerful) early on in his business life. He received perks from being friends with these people so it isn't all his business genius. |
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Post by blackorchidx on Nov 12, 2009 18:33:51 GMT -6
I just laugh at this thread now
steve try volunteering for somalia or something, and see they HAVE money, just like africa, malysia, iraq, afghanistan
its just the money doesnt go where it should, so it isnt about money
now anyone who was part of this place when it started will know i volunteered with the tsunami, hands on experience and the problem has been averted from a huge outcry
dont get high and mighty because you put money into a charity box, if anything, money is the easy thing to do to make yourself look important
oh look i put money in a charity, i did my bit, now i poke at people who do more with one transaction than i do for the year
what if every millionaire to billionaire decided *** you because of people and idealisms like yourself, give NOTHING,
then you will see problems you couldnt possibly fathom, not just poor countries but our own doorsteps
christmas is coming up, why dont we all volunteer to shop for the elderly in the neighbourhood, who cant go out in the cold for health or safety reasons?
nah, its far too easier to poke at billionaires who have setup such services already while we bitch on the internet,
grow up a bit
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