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Post by xcaliber on Jun 9, 2005 22:17:39 GMT -6
I'm not sure if anyone else has ever had this problem but I am currently involved in a progresive rock band, I am a guitarist and my friend and I share the lead and rythms sections because we are both equally good. We have a very good keyboard player and drummer but no bass player. I unfortunately happen to be a compotent bass player as well even though I don't own one or enjoy playing them, so he's trying to push me to play bass because we need a bassist (because face it any band without a bass player is a joke). Any idea on what I should do, should I just give up and play bass or should I tell him that if he keeps pushing i'm out. Gimme some input guys ,i need it. (I love guitar, it's my passion, I play for at least 2 hours a dayand bass just doesn't feel right) anyways throw ideas my way guys, Mike I'm a big admirer of your work and I would really appreciate your imput on how to handle this.
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Post by NotGuest on Jun 10, 2005 0:55:16 GMT -6
Tell him you'll split bass duties, unless he's god awful as a bass player, in which case, do a newspaper add. I wouldnt threaten to quit if you really like the band, but if you dont really like the band, and it wont go any other way, then find a new band.
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sweepingspagettios
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Post by sweepingspagettios on Jun 10, 2005 7:21:27 GMT -6
The doors never had a bass player
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Post by BKW on Jun 10, 2005 11:46:36 GMT -6
The decision is really up to you. There are a number of great musicians who changed instruments and did really well.
The guitarist from REM was originally the Bass player. Alex Van Halen originally played the Guitar and has become a great and distinctive drummer. I remember one of the Van-Zant brothers (Lenard Skinner) (sic) changed instruments.
You might find a new talent!!!! I like the idea to try splitting up the duties!
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Post by WyldeStallion on Jun 10, 2005 13:10:40 GMT -6
The doors never had a bass player Ray Manzarek played organ and keyboard so in theory with their kind of style there was no need for a bass player. However in a rock band is advisable to have a bass player, but I suppose there are ways around not having one. Anyone know any of them let me know lol I recommend just telling them that you dont want to do bass and to just keep looking for a bass player. There has to be at least 1 person who will play bass.
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Post by BKW on Jun 10, 2005 13:17:02 GMT -6
I know that Geddy Lee uses bass pedals when he is playing the keyboard. It is just amazing to watch him Sing, play the keyboards, and play the bass line with his feet; all at the same time .
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Post by Mark on Jun 10, 2005 14:04:48 GMT -6
^^ I love Rush
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Post by Blondie on Jun 12, 2005 4:26:44 GMT -6
If You don't like to play bass, You shouldn't let anyone push You to do so.
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Post by themaidenmaniac on Jun 12, 2005 4:47:48 GMT -6
If You don't like to play bass, You shouldn't let anyone push You to do so. Comprenday- Get a new bassist. Bands with 2 guitarists work very well.. unless there are ego problems
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Post by Succubus on Jun 12, 2005 5:04:23 GMT -6
If You don't like to play bass, You shouldn't let anyone push You to do so. I agree. If you're forced to play an instrument you don't really like it's just going to lead to you resenting it and the other band members. I'd say try to find a new bassist. Maybe in the meantime you and the other guy can share bass duties but I wouldn't advocate that for the long run, it won't lead any place good if you're not totally happy with what you're doing!
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Post by Michael Angelo Batio on Jun 12, 2005 10:45:13 GMT -6
When I was 12 years old my parents bought a vintage organ complete 2 rows of keys, a drum machine and bass pedals. Similar to a "Hammond" organ only with more effects. I used to program beats, then play lead guitar and the bass pedals at the same time. Later on, I realized that it really helped my timing and groove to play to a quantized beat. I had a lot of fun playing "walking" bass lines on the pedals while simultaneously playing the guitar.
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Post by Succubus on Jun 12, 2005 10:47:48 GMT -6
Flippin heck, not only ambidexterous but also hands and feet together too?!?! Too cool ;D
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Post by Michael Angelo Batio on Jun 12, 2005 10:50:27 GMT -6
As far as your question- I do not think that you should change your main instrument because of an individual or a band pressuring you. I learned the Bass Guitar very early on and consider it a "second" instrument. I play many other instruments but consider them all "secondary". Guitar is my main instrument. There is nothing wrong with learning a new instrument, but being pressured is not IMHO, a good reason to do so.
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Post by BKW on Jun 12, 2005 11:47:04 GMT -6
When I was 12 years old my parents bought a vintage organ complete 2 rows of keys, a drum machine and bass pedals. Similar to a "Hammond" organ only with more effects. I used to program beats, then play lead guitar and the bass pedals at the same time. Later on, I realized that it really helped my timing and groove to play to a quantized beat. I had a lot of fun playing "walking" bass lines on the pedals while simultaneously playing the guitar. I think the only guitarist I can remember playing bass pedals live (while playing the guitar) is Michael Rutherford from Genesis.
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Post by sweepingspagettios on Jun 13, 2005 7:07:20 GMT -6
What ever happened to people playing the talk box like peter frampton.. to think i spent money on one and can only use it to play songs off of 'frampton comes alive' seems a shame
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Post by Blondie on Jun 13, 2005 8:16:03 GMT -6
I have a Heil Talkbox that I dont' use......... yet ;D
Back on topic (almost)........ Malmsteen uses (or used) a pedalbass live also.
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Post by Ryan on Jun 22, 2005 20:29:26 GMT -6
I dont think you should let anyone pressure you into doing that, if you dont like the instrument, dont do it. I agree with michael on this.
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Post by Man Of Shred on Jun 29, 2005 19:41:08 GMT -6
Wow michael thats amazing. I went to a folk festival not too long ago and some guy had a one man band thing going on. his music wasn't too tastefull but it was fun to watch.
But still that amazes me michael. is there anything you can't do?
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Post by Guitar1Jesse on Jun 30, 2005 10:45:44 GMT -6
People are out there who play bass, it seems silly for you to change instruments when there's probably someone playing bass in their basement right now - looking for a band too! The only problem is finding a bassist, but that seems like less of a problem than having to change your instrument.
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Post by taylor on Jul 1, 2005 6:50:02 GMT -6
You like guitar, then play the guitar- Sometimes another guitarist will try to make others switch to the bass due to insecurity on thier part. Like the one post said there is probably someone out there playing bass in a bsaement righnt now looking for a band.
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Post by SemiShred on Jul 4, 2005 8:08:53 GMT -6
Make a quad guitar with on the botom basses and on the top guitars
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Post by Brian on Jul 13, 2005 23:14:59 GMT -6
I went to a folk festival not too long ago and some guy had a one man band thing going on. Was it this guy?
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Post by vaiisking on Jul 15, 2005 19:46:31 GMT -6
IMPORTANT TO NOTE!!! As a serious classical guitarist I can tell you bass playing will ruin your finger independece for guitar. I played bass for 1 year while I was trying to develop a smooth left hand. I didn't get my left hand up to par unitill I quit playing bass under my teachers demand! So if you want guitar to be your main instrument, don't take up the bass seriously. The techniques are too different!
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