FX loops?

[Shredder Steve]

How do you run effects pedals through an fx loop and what is the difference between that and running them in between your guitar and amp? I've got a MG100DFX marshall amp with fx loop ports on back and 7 effects pedals on a SKB pedal board with fx loop ports.

[themaidenmaniac]

In the effects loop, these are the effects that are processed after the signal is amplified. So for example, you would place something like a delay in the effects loop, as you would probably want the whole signal to be delayed instead of juist the pre-amplified one. I've never really bothered with this stuff, as im more inclined to use multieffects boards, altho it is still possible to do on my Boss GT-6 i believe. Have fun with trying it out and see if you notice a difference!

Kev

[TRPLEXXX]

Don't put a distortion in fx loop, second from your skb out to the send fx loop in your amp and from the skb in to the return in your amp, do not put a wah in the loop i think it does not sound ok, in fact it is up to you give a try and if you like the sound then keep this way.

[eddiemetal]

I'm not familiar with Marshall fx loops as far as a set-up, but if it's anything like my Crate blue voodoo, the SEND means the signal that is sent FROM the head to the INPUT of your effects, and the RETURN means the signal is retuning FROM the EFFECTS back to the amp. I also have a skb pedalboard, but I only have a Boss super-shifter, boss eq, and boss tuner and I only use the amps distortion, only because fits my style. I do have to agree on NOT putting a distortion pedal between the guitar and amp, only because most D-pedals act as a preamp and can actually overload the input resulting in a god-awful screeching sound and (who knows) possible damage to the amp...especially if it is a TUBE type amp. As for the wah, I can't help you, I don't use one.

[Shredder Steve]

thanks for your input so far guys, I kinda get it now...but see my amp has send/return on the back, then my pedal board has multiple built in fxloop in/outs, then theres the in/out on each pedal. i duno it just confuses the *** out of me...

[sweepingspagettios]

I have heard all the hoopidy doo and whappity wah about FX loops and never have I used one and never have I thought 'man there has got to be another way' I guess it is supposed to cut down the transference rate from the guitar to the pedal to the amp but I have never heard any kind of delay that neccesitated it.. but who knows..

[sweepingspagettios]

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[themaidenmaniac]

sweepingspagettios said:

[glow=red,2,300]All I know is I'm gonna keep on rockin[/glow]

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[sweepingspagettios]

Is sodding some British word equivalent of 'damn' or 'friggin'? I like to imagine that it means 'awesome' or 'most excellent' or 'keep em comin'

[Succubus]

sodding is actually doing someone up the bum. But yes, it's like frigging ;D

[sweepingspagettios]

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[sweepingspagettios]

oops colloquial

[Succubus]

precisely

btw there's an edit button for typos etc ;D

[sweepingspagettios]

even after its posted?

[BKW]

sweepingspagettios said:

even after its posted?

Yes,

You can change a post after it has been posted (even weeks later) Only you (and the moderators) can change the post. It puts a message on the post that it has been edited. I'll do it to this one, so you can see it.

Also, you may just want to go a little easier on the pictures. Else they might shut off our ability to post any

(There is a "Quote" "Modify" and "Delete" at the top right of your own posts. Click Modify, and you can re-edit the text; as I am doing now)

[Succubus]

The pictures are a killer for dialup users, I even have trouble sometimes on ADSL loading a page quickly if it's picture heavy :<

[sweepingspagettios]

ty good to know

[sweepingspagettios]

I have no prob uploading pics though

[Succubus]

Then you have a faster connection Mine's crap, it calls itself ADSL but it's only 200kbps and shared among about 50 people. So it's basically slightly faster than dialup. But it's all I can get in this pissant village.

[sweepingspagettios]

Then maybe you can borrow a calculator an empty toilet paper roll and some aluminum foil and really be released on the superinformation highway

[Stewie]

guitardude said:

...but see my amp has send/return on the back, then my pedal board has multiple built in fxloop in/outs, then theres the in/out on each pedal. i duno it just confuses the *** out of me...

The pedal board prolly has it's own FX loop because there will be pre amp on the pedal board and the the FX loop is there for you to bypass it, with other pedals/stompboxes, if you want to.
So, you COULD take your individual pedals, connect 'em in a chain, then connect the 'in' on the board to the 'out of the pedal chain, then connect the 'out' on the board to the 'in' on the chain.
Once you've done that..you could, theoretically connect your pedal board to the amp in the FX loop.
heheh, two FX loops going on, busy busy

[Shredder Steve]

So i am just better off not using an fx loop then huh? when would be an ideal time to use one?

[Blondie]

Wich pedals have You got ?

[Shredder Steve]

v-wah, mt-2 metal zone, oc-3 super octave, ph-3 phase shifter, bf-3 flanger, ch-1 super chorus, dd-6 digital delay, in that order

[Blondie]

everything from the OC-3 and after should go in Your amps FX-Loop.