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Post by Shadow1980 on Jun 19, 2005 15:06:42 GMT -6
In regards to sweepingspaggetios or whatever is name was, Blondie locked the thread and posted this:
I can only react this on that: Honoustly Blondie but the error is at the side of all the other users. This kind of behaviour has been encouraged and praised the past weeks and post counts seem to matter more then constructive discussions. This is one of the reasons I have read these boards less and less even tho I was quite interested in learning more about the kind of music that was being discussed. But since 95% of the posts have little to do with this anymore and spamming is encouraged rather then frowned upon, these forums have lost their charm a little. A pity as they have quite some potential, and few people here from what I can see are quite interested in the original purpose of the forums: MAB and music.
My point being tho, rather then putting the blame on one person, look at the community as a whole right now. Perhaps the "postcount" races should be toned down a little as sorry to say, but all they do is encourage spamming.
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Post by Fabien on Jun 19, 2005 15:41:17 GMT -6
hmmm you put a lot of thought in what you're saying... Hey, why won't we create a section where we can talk about something else than music ? A place where all the street team members could help each other in everydays life... I mean, we are a family now !!! aren't we ? ;D
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Post by Shadow1980 on Jun 19, 2005 16:10:53 GMT -6
General Discussions would have made sense a long time ago ;-)
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Post by Succubus on Jun 19, 2005 16:30:12 GMT -6
A general discussions has been talked about before on several occasions, everyone agreed it is a good idea and then it was forgotten again. A forum for off topic discussions would be a good idea, keep the Music GD to be exactly what it says
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Post by DarkMusicAngel on Jun 19, 2005 16:46:53 GMT -6
I agree with you totally Shadow, I think there should be just a general discussion....
I know there's a forum I post on at times that everyday they start a thread and members can just talk about everything on it, next day they start another. they just put the same title for the thread everyday and they put the date...I think this would be a good idea for here... Just a suggestion though
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Post by themaidenmaniac on Jun 19, 2005 17:24:57 GMT -6
think im with you dude... i can also say those pictures were getting fairly annoying from spaghettios ;D
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Post by Ryan on Jun 19, 2005 19:29:07 GMT -6
Yeah, i agree with Deb,....to be honest Shadow, if this turned into a "no spam" forum, i would leave. Reason being i would get bored and sick of reading the same thing over and over. I mean, it's great to see someone has gotten a new guitar, or theyve mastered that technique/song theyve always wanted to master. But this place is always a great place to talk to others, get to know them in other areas apart from music, i still remember why i came here, and why i still come here...the fact that its a great forum makes me want to come here even more. If we didnt have no off-topic...we wouldnt have been able to say congratz to people on their birthdays for example.....or we wouldnt been able to hear that people have passed their exams...hey might not mean much to you, but it could make alot of difference to the person you talking to on the other side of that computer. What im saying is after this dumb lilttle speech is to just continue this the way it is, the forum hasnt become a bad place and a sudden change like this would make the forum take a turn for the worst..in my opinion.
NOTE-Slighty tired when typing this...sorry if it didnt make sense.
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Post by Succubus on Jun 19, 2005 19:43:20 GMT -6
It of course shouldn't be a no-spam-at-all-forum, I don't think Shadow was suggesting that. (god knows I'd not have much to say any more if it was : But some people are putting a lot of emphasis just on post counts which isn't necessarily a good thing. When it's just in jest it's no bother imo (hence my title, right? ) But if someone feels the need to reply to themselves 8 times in a thread to boost their count it shows the bad/annoying side of it. And maybe splitting general discussions and music discussions up would mean new people who aren't interested in our nonsense can just read the bits they are interested in more easily? Alternatively we can just say OT (off topic) in the title of OT threads. Alternatively again we can carry on the way we are ;D Just a few ideas I guess
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Post by Ryan on Jun 19, 2005 19:46:49 GMT -6
yeah well, thats just my personality im just too laid back to think about this...i mean, im not really that bothered if someone wants to spam the hell out of a thread to boost their post-count, at the end of the of it all, it doesnt prove nothing to themselves or others around them, and when luke and blondie come online(...are they ever offline? ;D) they will probably just take care of it anyways. But hey, just my opinion on this topic. EDIT-In regards to shadow's post...when exactly was spamming encouraged...apart from the 10k post contest?
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Post by Succubus on Jun 19, 2005 19:52:59 GMT -6
well I guess in threads exactly like the one that got locked I don't really mind that much either, but it can get annoying loading a thread thinking there's something new there when in fact it's just pointless garbage that I might as well not have loaded. (Sorry, you all probably think exactly that every time I post somewhere :
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Post by Ryan on Jun 19, 2005 19:57:23 GMT -6
Heh heh, nah, i always see something meaningful posted by someone on this forum, this is where my views are coming from, the only problem with spagghettios(sry for typo) is the pictures...im not a big fan of them,....1. there a mockery of those who are unfortunate, 2.i know people like that...so i get offended, as im sure other people do.
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Post by Succubus on Jun 19, 2005 20:03:11 GMT -6
Nah, it doesn't happen often that I get annoyed that I bothered loading a thread either, you know the ones I'm talking about anyway. Anyhoo, I only started thinking about a seperate GD forum in the first place because I remember reading a post from a new member a while ago (I have no idea who any more, I think they only made one post. It might even have been a guest. In fact I think it was before I even registered. But I digress....). They were saying they found it strange/annoying that the forum was called General Music Discussions but there were a lot of OT posts. But I guess that's just tough titty, as my mam would say ;D
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Post by Ryan on Jun 19, 2005 20:07:21 GMT -6
No no, i understand perfectly were they are coming from, maybe a little area dedicated to trollling/spam/crap in general is the best thing for a forum that is growing as fast as this one...but meh, we'll see what happens, btw, good night im very tired
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Post by Fabien on Jun 20, 2005 5:32:50 GMT -6
Nothing to say, I'm out of this one.
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Post by Ryan on Jun 20, 2005 7:30:23 GMT -6
I think you may have offended some people with that last post, Shadow.
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Post by WyldeStallion on Jun 20, 2005 8:18:02 GMT -6
I dont think we can talk about music all the time but I think I know what shadow is on about a small bit. I have noticed myself that on a few, not too many, but on some posts about music it tends to go off topic and I have found myself not even to bother reading most of it cause it has nothing to do with the topic. For example, I started a thread yesterday, now the last 10 or so posts are just Succubus and Ryan talking about random stuff that has nothing to do with my question at hand. Im not getting at Succubus and Ryan in anyway at all this is just an example of what I am trying to say.
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Post by BKW on Jun 20, 2005 10:15:03 GMT -6
I feel I need to speak up here, as it appears that the thread being beelined here was started by me First off, I went back and re-read my original post and it's quick follow up by me. I had posted on the Street Team forum, (not the general forum) that I had noticed that the 'round noodle' had suddenly, out of nowhere, accumulated a large post count. I tend to keep tabs on what is happening on the board, and this caught my attention. At that time, his number of pictures was small, and the content was sparse, but not too offensive. He almost immediately posted 5 - 6 times on the thread I created, all with pictures, and most nonsense. When other people posted, he then responded rapid fire with additional posts (many that were very small). I tried to rain him in, by laying down a challenge to post a large post without pictures, smileys etc. and commented that I was finding his posting patterns to not be of my tastes. I hoped that would slow him down, and give him some feedback that his posting style was not being appreciated. I apologize, if I cam across as promoting him... not my intent at all. It took me months to get to 500 posts, and I try not to spam (much). I think it is an accomplishment and shows the quality of the board as people have hit certain milestones. Finally, when the recent outbreak of threads happened by the unknown "Guest" who was 'BADLY' impersonating MAB , EVH, and others; I NEVER posted on those threads, or talked about it on other threads. I sent a PM to Blondie, who I knew was the only moderator around at that time, who locked the threads until Deb could take care of it (which she did ;D ) I did not want to post in reply to these, as I knew they were bogus, and many were in very poor taste. I do not want to encourage that behavior here; So I purposely do not post or reply about it, as that just encourages them by giving them a forum. Sorry again if I contributed in any way to what happened. Again, that was never my intent. I am receiving 50 lashes by a wet noodle (not a round one )
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Post by Shadow1980 on Jun 20, 2005 10:33:35 GMT -6
I think you may have offended some people with that last post, Shadow. Honoustly I could only have offended people if they are looking to be offended. I didn't post in a rush, but put down exactly what I thought about things. That's my character, but at least you allways know what your up to when your dealing with me :-) I don't regret what I posted, I have read over it several times, and let other people read it, and it doesn't look to be "over the top". If anybody took offense, well maybe your too easely offended BKW: although your apoligise and claiming blame are appreciated and in fact even respected (takes a special kind of people to admit they where wrong) I don't believe the problem relies solely in you or that incident. The general attitude/behaviour on the forums as a whole has leaned more and more to spamming promotion, and personally I hope this is toned down a little. After all it would only ruin the community in the end. The problem isn't with one particular person or a few individuals, it's everybody encouraging everybody. Just hope it doesn't get out of hand
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Post by Ryan on Jun 20, 2005 10:35:02 GMT -6
Sorry for that Wydle, didnt mean to hijack the thread.
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Post by WyldeStallion on Jun 20, 2005 10:43:08 GMT -6
Sorry for that Wydle, didnt mean to hijack the thread. Im sorry man that i used that example. I wanted to stress my point and try not to offend anyone at the same time which is really hard to do if you are not face to face. But like Deb said we are all family here so we learn to forgive and forget
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Post by Ryan on Jun 20, 2005 10:55:25 GMT -6
I think you may have offended some people with that last post, Shadow. Honoustly I could only have offended people if they are looking to be offended. I didn't post in a rush, but put down exactly what I thought about things. That's my character, but at least you allways know what your up to when your dealing with me :-) I don't regret what I posted, I have read over it several times, and let other people read it, and it doesn't look to be "over the top". If anybody took offense, well maybe your too easely offended No, no, im not the kinda person who looks for something, i respect you for being straight out and honest, i mean, no other way to be. you tell it like it is or dont tell it at all. I just realise that im dealing with many people here and many people with differnt personalities/lives/mentality...so i choose my words very carefully sometimes. WYLDE-No, you gotta make an example out of somebody to get the point accross sometimes, do what you gotta do.
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Post by DarkMusicAngel on Jun 20, 2005 14:05:34 GMT -6
Everybody does it I know... But Shadow you do it too, for goodness sakes how many times have I come upon a thread that's full with stuff written in dutch I do agree that sometimes it can be really annoying when somebody posts for absolutley nothing (Ya, I know I've done it too before anybody says it for me...but at least now I try not to) just so their post count can get higher but it's like that in every single forum, there's always gonna be members that are gonna do that and it always shows too. But whatever, that's just my opinion, you guys do what you want.
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Post by Shadow1980 on Jun 20, 2005 20:39:49 GMT -6
Darkmusicangel: I think you miss my point here :-)
I was talking about active spam encouragement and the lack of a General Discussion place to keep the discussions about music a bit cleaner, to summarise it quickly. (Which I probably did quite poorly, since its 4:43am right now and I am dead tired)
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Post by DarkMusicAngel on Jun 21, 2005 13:59:50 GMT -6
Darkmusicangel: I think you miss my point here :-) I was talking about active spam encouragement and the lack of a General Discussion place to keep the discussions about music a bit cleaner, to summarise it quickly. (Which I probably did quite poorly, since its 4:43am right now and I am dead tired) It's alright, No problem, I guess I didn't get your point so well!
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Post by Ryan on Jun 21, 2005 18:43:26 GMT -6
Crap.....it costs Michael money??
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