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Post by DarkMusicAngel on Jun 21, 2005 18:53:22 GMT -6
Crap.....it costs Michael money?? I didn't know that! I thought proboards were free
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Post by Blondie on Jun 21, 2005 20:29:03 GMT -6
Pro boards are free if You don't care about adds...my board has adds bc I have it for fun and learning I've always been advocate for more forums (been bugging Deb since Adam and Eve) and a general talk forum could be a great addition. It could be a members only area, to make sure that guests coming here, is coming here to learn about Mike. It's importent to keep the forum clean, but it's also importent to let members here relate to each other. I've made some good friends here from all over the world, and though I sometimes talk to some of those over msn, I want to be able to talk about everyday stuff on the board. I don't know how Your post, Shadow, could offend anybody, as it was some general thoughts on how You see the board. and to You BKW, Your posts are always polite and well argumented, and I didn't close it bc of Your... It was more like: Better Safe than Sorry A bunch of thought from me here.
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Post by Shadow1980 on Jun 22, 2005 0:43:08 GMT -6
Thanks for your insight and supportive words Blondie. If this really costs money btw Deb then you should seriously considering PHPBB2. All that would cost is some webspace, 5 to 10 dollars a month. Without adds and with full control on what you do add and don't add. The only problem, tho a very very big problem, would be the loss of all posts so far. As you wouldnt be able to port the current posts. I guess it depends on how much proboards are costing. I thought you got them for free, they are definitly not worth any money.
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Post by Succubus on Jun 22, 2005 3:33:00 GMT -6
I agree Blondie, I'd be splitting General Music Discussions down the middle. I'd keep a general discussion section open to everyone though - I lurked for ages getting to know people's personality and to see if I liked it round here before I signed up and started posting and I think a lot of people probably do the same. Street Team section I'd make password protected, but I think Deb is on that one already if I remember right The boards themselves are free, keeping it ad-free costs money. PHPBB2 is superior in terms of control you have over the forums, but I think the loss of current posts would outweigh any positives that could come from moving to a new system. To BKW: You're one of the people I respect most around here, your posts are always thought out and well presented. I think everyone understood the point of the thread that got locked, so don't be worrying ok?
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Post by BKW on Jun 22, 2005 6:05:37 GMT -6
Thanks all for the kind words. I very much agreed that that thread (and others) were locked. I actually didn't check the board for a while, as I was getting sick of clicking on the '20 most recent posts' and 19 were from the same person I do think the Street Team threads should be password protected at this point. The locked thread would not have gotten out of hand if guests and non 'Street Team' were not allowed in. I was leaning the other way originaly... but think it is time now. (there are definitely enough posts to keep someone busy reading for a while ) In thinking ahead.... I expect there to be a numer of post races next spring. If we keep the 'Weekend with No Boundaries' only to 'Street Team' and Full members and above (250 posts and above), new and infrequent members will be trying to get to those levels quickly. Especially those in the Midwest who do not have to travel far. Just something to think about now.
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Post by Ryan on Jun 22, 2005 8:21:19 GMT -6
THe mab gathering....is probably a recipe for disaster in terms of spam and posting ...as if the 10k post contest wasn't enough we had members joining for that contest only, i mean, do you see most of the members around now? Because i dont, i see Sucubus, BKW, blondie, luke, basicially the usuals on the forums, sorry to anyone i missed..maybe there is another method we should think of for this mab gathering.
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Post by WyldeStallion on Jun 22, 2005 8:48:11 GMT -6
THe mab gathering....is probably a recipe for disaster in terms of spam and posting ...as if the 10k post contest wasn't enough we had members joining for that contest only, i mean, do you see most of the members around now? Because i dont, i see Sucubus, BKW, blondie, luke, basicially the usuals on the forums, sorry to anyone i missed..maybe there is another method we should think of for this mab gathering. I can see your point with that. Oh and I would say im a usual the forum. And also i was signed in at the time of the contest but i never took part in it.
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Post by Ryan on Jun 22, 2005 9:39:43 GMT -6
Heh, my mistake Wylde....yeah you are a regular around here. EDIT- how could i forget bout Fabien, ErikT, Jim , nitroboy, darkmusicangel and to the others, i have a poor memory
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Post by Blondie on Jun 22, 2005 11:12:13 GMT -6
When I talk about the general talk forum as members only, I mean for posting, meaning that lurkers can still read and get to know us
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Post by Shadow1980 on Jun 22, 2005 12:15:01 GMT -6
Theoretically you could set everybodies postcounts up to their current level as well, but that is a dreadful task. It's really going to be a matter of judgement. On one side you lose posts/progress, on another side you gain freedom, flexibility and a better system for the future. Even tho for some people with whatever how many postcount it might be annoying to start back at square one, if they would only post for the postcounts they wouldn't really be here for the reasons you have the forums up anyways. As for posts, most of them are old discussions that where only relevant "at the time" you could keep a link to here for archive purposes, and you could copy/paste the important threads into the new boards. That is, if you would decide to take the big step to move to another system that is :-) Personally, i'd get a webhosting package that has phpbb pre-installed, and a domain with it. Looks a lot more professional for mab's official forums if it had a more obvious url like www.michaelangelobatio.comSuch a package would allow you to put an official website for MAB up there as well. Let me know if your considering such steps, I can recommend a host with sharp prices and around the clock service that we rent quite a few services from ourselves. Apoligies if some parts of this post dont make sense. I haven't slept for over 48 hours
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Post by Ryan on Jun 22, 2005 14:44:47 GMT -6
What were you doing...coding, Shadow? 48 hours is not healthy...seriously. Then again, im guessing you know that.
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Post by Succubus on Jun 22, 2005 15:01:51 GMT -6
yep he's been a busy boy coding all night. He was working with someone from the US so was on the wrong time zone, but otherwise he couldn't have got the problem fixed :/ He's got a lot of good work done though ;D On topic, I see we have a new forum now Thanks Deb!
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Post by Ryan on Jun 22, 2005 15:27:57 GMT -6
Did i miss it? Ive just seen a new topic area....
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Post by Succubus on Jun 22, 2005 15:45:56 GMT -6
Forum, topic area... same difference! I call it a forum cos that's the singular of forums (or fora as they should really be known... but that just sounds silly to my non-latin ears)
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Post by Erikrt123 on Jun 22, 2005 23:07:30 GMT -6
Wow there has been alot of talk on this. You know at this piont I have noticed a new board for this Spamming thing. And I am happy to see it. Maybe there will be more focus on the subjects at hand. But I must make a confession here. I have been playing guitar for along time here and have never taking the time to learn anthing but to train my ear. I want to learn more, but a lot of times the talking seems so cool on the little lessons and tech talk then it goes over my head pretty fast. I am not up to date with the new gear out there, but I could quickly listen and know if it is for me if that makes sence. I wish I could be more a part of the decession but I can't even properly express myself. I have never written down any music either I just have it all locked in my brain. While this has been a very pore choice in my life. It is something I want to over come. And I am sure that I am not the only one that had taken this approach. Anyway Locking the Street Teams board seems to be a good idea, but time will tell how successful it will be. As far as not letting people post as guest. While this sounds great and it would seem to be a solution to some problems. I personally do not see it as an end. I seem to remember trouble we had with a guy named James W a while ago and he just keeped changing info to keep being a pest. Know I don't know much about computers, So I am just not sure what would make it more useful to stopping this trouble? ??
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Post by Shadow1980 on Jun 23, 2005 6:06:57 GMT -6
What were you doing...coding, Shadow? 48 hours is not healthy...seriously. Then again, im guessing you know that. Our game is in final stages of beta testing and we had one particular crashbug that we couldn't exactly find out what caused it. I ran the server in debug for over 2 months without the crash ever happening during that debug. It finally happened, giving us a full log of why it crashed, and enabling us to try and fix it. I spent several hours on that, so that the game doesn't crash unexpectedly once we go live. (as that's bad for an MMORPG) Other then that I rewrote an eCommerce module so that we can accept donations to the game, and return some small tokens of appreciation to those players. The game is going to be free, so it will run on contributions from players who feel like contributing. Other then that mostly bugfixing and coding other things that where on my to-do list. As for sleep: I know it aint healthy, but I had too much sleep the 2 days before. It was 28 degrees in the middle of the night still and I honoustly couldn't sleep, so I rather spent time doing something useful. Thanks for your concern tho ;-) *back to topic*
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Post by Shadow1980 on Jun 23, 2005 6:09:33 GMT -6
Did i miss it? Ive just seen a new topic area.... It might be a bit confusing due to the incorrect use of the word Forum here. The logo should probably be changed to The MAB Forums or better: The MAB Messageboards. A messageboard is split into categories, and each category contains forums. Each forum then contains threads, and the threads contain posts. Hope this helps :-)
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Post by Succubus on Jun 23, 2005 6:14:01 GMT -6
It will be easier to keep track of pests if they are forced to register before posting, but people can still be a big pain if they want. It's almost impossible to get rid of such people altogether but there are ways to make it harder for them too.
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Post by Erikrt123 on Jun 23, 2005 7:07:58 GMT -6
Ah, Well that would be a good thing. So, I agree with it!!!
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Post by Ryan on Jun 23, 2005 7:33:51 GMT -6
THanks for info shadow...and as for pests....you can never get rid of them, they will always be lurking. So probably best to ignore them, once they see have they no one's attention, they will leave.
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